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what is happening ladies and gentlemen i

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gotta tell you what i know i say it

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every episode well thank you very much

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for coming and hanging out with me and

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uh to add to that would be the end of

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that video i say it every week i'm like

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guys i'm going to take care of it i

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can't stand the hard cut off

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and then tonight's even worse and i just

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realized how much worse it is because we

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have the one and only

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red panda koala in the house and this

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man is all about making documentaries

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and editing videos and i just showed him

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that i was like well we'll see how that

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goes

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but to be fair it was done on a cell

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phone i think in like 20 minutes one

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time before a show began so we'll maybe

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we'll cut a little bit of slack on it i

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just want to say quickly to those that

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have popped in the chat already tonight

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thank you very much i know we have a

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couple of shows going on tonight

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everybody we jump back and forth having

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a good time

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ghost dragon zw thank you very much for

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being here with us tonight and keeping

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those evil fan dirty goblins away as

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they try each and every night we might

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have some issues that might we'll see

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what happens t was thank you for being

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here tonight as well

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sliding on down the list we have simon

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wells my twin brother from down under

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who says party party party party but we

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all know what the actual gif would be on

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that one enzo what is happening brother

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thank you for being here tonight wes h

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in here with us

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as well as arlene

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zell thank you all so very much for

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coming and hanging out

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you know the drill if you could hit the

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like button if you have not rang that

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bell yet please do so and if you have a

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friend who you think would enjoy the

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show and the content we provide please

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feel free to share it with them excuse

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me alrighty and also really quick just

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quick housekeeping thing to get out of

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the way here excuse me as we've all

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turned out we enjoyed these super chats

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so very much that you guys provide for

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us however so does youtube they also

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enjoy those super chats and they enjoyed

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taking about 40 of the total that comes

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in so we have provided

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in the bottom there uh in the show notes

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the links to where you can support the

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boys here well actually that it's set up

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differently each one you can support

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garage as a whole use for support joe if

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you want or just ben or just myself big

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willy but really we're a whole team over

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here so you're supporting the whole

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thing but it is in there in the show

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notes oracles and beyond thank you for

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being here tonight thank you for sharing

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this out earlier i really appreciate

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that 509 divine pines my man i showed up

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about four minutes 20 seconds ago and

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i'll be here until my joint puts me into

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cloud nine spark up

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you do you boo you do you understand you

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reach that next level i get it brother i

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understand enzo thank you uh so yeah

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once again guys if you could feel free

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to scroll down there and if you're

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watching this show back at a later date

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and we are no longer live and you'd like

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to contribute to the show just know like

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i said the show notes that will be

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available for you

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as well as some really other cool things

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we have going on as you guys all know we

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have ben and joe running things on

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tuesdays what is it two topic topless

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tuesday something like that it's a

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tongue twister they've got that running

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every tuesday as well as our thirsty

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thursdays which myself uh who all was on

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there with me last night breathe then

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lizzie borden known as thin lizzie

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borden as well as jojo bone and the one

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and only spooky morales thank you all

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for being in there as well but they do

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have dr dave heightman uh biotechnology

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coming on whoa

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we all know joe and better doctor

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scientists but let's see what happens

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with them this will be on the 17th

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coming up here and then we have bigfoot

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anonymous which we all know bigfoot

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added connor our man who brings a ton of

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energy every time he's in and a ton of

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information so that's going to be an

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exciting and for like with ben and joe

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they're going to take that to the next

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level it's going to be a good time then

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they'll have their peculiar daughter and

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excuse me the peculiar daughter and

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i could be reading it wrong or we could

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have typed it in wrong but those are the

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planned shows we have for them i myself

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will actually have next weekend off it's

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i will not be around to hang out with

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you guys i'll be celebrating that so

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as long as you're gonna forgive me for

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at least one weekend there i will be

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back after that and i will look forward

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to bringing you more content happening

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in old blue here to travel to cosmos and

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beyond and really quickly as well to get

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this out of the way do not forget you

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have been invited to the ufo garage

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family reunion which is in 2022 november

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4th through the 6th friday night through

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come hang out it's going to be a good

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time another guys you can get all that

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information is in the show notes as well

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if you scroll on down there all right

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i'm trying to run through them quickly

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here i feel like we're getting more and

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more in here we just we're getting more

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more legit up in here guys i'll tell you

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what let's see what else we got oh bread

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here thank you very much haskets for

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being here with us tonight

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sweetly mormon bear look at you thank

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you for being here benji might be

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i've always wondered is it benji might

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is it rabbit hole i white rabbit

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i don't know but benji might be that's

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all we can leave it as i mean really and

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truly it's benji might be

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all right guys enough about all that

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you've come here tonight

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did you to listen to our guests that we

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have and my guest this year for you this

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fine easy evening is almost as elusive

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as the red panda itself

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but not but nearly as well known if not

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more so than the famous red panda you

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guys ever looked us up they're pretty

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cute actually

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little is known about the man behind the

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documentaries and perhaps this is not by

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accident i for one am genuinely curious

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as to what led our fine guest for this

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evening down the path he is currently

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if you have not had the chance of or the

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pleasure of checking out any of the

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documentaries that red panda koala has

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produced you are missing out and in for

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a true treat

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so let us embark upon tonight's travels

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and see where it takes us as we dive

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deep into the unknown come what may so

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buckle up as we take old blue into the

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cosmos and beyond once again in

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tonight's conversation and before we

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i'd love to share and he we got

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permission for all this obviously in

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advance so youtube don't hate us uh to

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bit this is an updated kind of if you go

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to check him out that's what you're

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gonna see and this is a small

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encapsulation very small encapsulation

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of the massive amount of work that he

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let us pull this up here and we will

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share this and we will bring

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red in to join us in just a second

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headline edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army army officers

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say the missile found sometime last week

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has been inspected at roswell new mexico

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and sent to right field ohio for further

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late this afternoon a brilliant from new

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mexico suggested that the widely

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publicized mystery of supplying software

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may soon be solved anti-aircraft guns

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went into action against unidentified

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shortly after 3 a.m pacific war time

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this morning in washington ghost-like

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objects start across the radar screen at

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the caa traffic control center at

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national airport for several hours

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traveling more than 100 miles an hour

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air force jet fighters spend several

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hours chasing the objects plotted on the

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radar scope general sanford air force

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intelligence director confirms that the

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objects are not secret american weapons

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obligation to investigate do these

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lights belong to visitors from outer

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space hundreds of people across the

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valley think it's a distinct possibility

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what is described as a giant brightly

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lit boomerang soars through the air no

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official explanation of those strange

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for the last four years dr mack has

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studied about 100 patients who claim

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they have been abducted by aliens

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he believes them though this must be

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madness but when i heard that hundreds

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hi i'm bob lazar

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during late 1988 and early 89 i worked

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on the propulsion systems of

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extraterrestrial vehicles for the united

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states government hello and welcome

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our topic today is ufos and my guest dr

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jacques valet is an expert in this area

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who during the past 20 years has written

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numerous books on the subject including

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challenge to science but then for the

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past four years i had been scientific

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advisor to the us air force on this very

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there were two films that were of

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particular interest to the panel at that

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upfront now the former pentagon military

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official who ran the covert government

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program up until this last november luis

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elizondo

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there's a whole fleet of them look on

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commander david fravor still can't

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explain what he says he saw that day

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november 2004 the navy fighter pilot was

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on a training mission west of san diego

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when he was ordered to check out

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something in the water not far away it

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doesn't sound it doesn't like the human

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body could so bottom line what do you

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i believe as do the other folks that

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were on the flight that we've when we

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visually saw that it was something not

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from this world oh i know you're using

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you're being clear but i mean the answer

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my personal i can't speak on behalf of

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the government obviously i'm not in the

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us government anymore my personal belief

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is that there is very compelling

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evidence that we

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as you can see

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let's learn together

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and that's what we plan on doing this

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evening

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i don't know about you guys like i said

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i get chills watching that i get excited

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watching

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let's bring in red panda koala the

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producer and maker of that thank you

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very much and welcome to the show

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brother thank you for being here tonight

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uh congratulations on the

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uh when you made that question i i'm

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kind of curious when you made that

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particular piece

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was it after you already made a little

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bit or was that right off the bat that

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you just let out with that one

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i think let me look back too i think

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that was the first uh thing on my

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channel yeah i think it was the first

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one that's what i was curious if like

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that was just the first setup so i mean

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for me i mean by the way sorry and hi

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everyone

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welcome to the show

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thanks for being here uh yeah it's for

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me like i said i think that like that's

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phenomenal work for that just being the

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you know basically initially the

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excuse me the very first one that was

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coming out

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um

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like champ saying as well it was greatly

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sewn together that's a great that's a

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nice window yeah that great verb that

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was me like kind of practicing with the

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whole concept like obviously everyone

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edits stuff right but uh i hadn't really

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been editing for that long i kind of

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just got sony vegas and stuff so that

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was me practicing with like different

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clips and like

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newspaper stuff like and also like

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paying attention to music cues and like

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trying to like make it switch with their

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it's very i mean all my videos i feel

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like they get better and better but i

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still have a lot to learn in terms of

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editing and like audio but it's fun to

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watch that one like that was pretty

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it's always fun going back as much as

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like you said it could almost be a

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little embarrassing it's like we go back

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and we watch stuff that we've done we're

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like oh my god or if you listen back but

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it is it is also exciting to kind of go

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back and reminisce about like man this

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was the first thing and i guess that

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would be where i'd like to start with

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you to this fine evening which is uh did

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you really know at that time when you

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put that out there that you were going

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to kind of develop the channel to what

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it is now or were you just you know

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playing around with the information it

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was there was a lot happening at the

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time in the world

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so that yeah

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when that came out

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i think by that point i kind of knew

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what i kind of wanted the general idea

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of the channel to be which was kind of

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like what i try and do which is

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different

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documentaries on various historical

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topics relating to ufos as well as like

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current news

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yeah um

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so by that point yeah because i had

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i had been prepping like mentally for

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like a year i feel like before i even

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made that video just kind of like

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researching for myself like making sure

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like i kind of understood and even knew

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like what i thought about the subject

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and then like

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understood like the history of like the

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field quote unquote ufology or whatever

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if i'm gonna like stick my toe into that

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so

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yeah by the time that that first um

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by the time that first um

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video had dropped i was already pretty

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set on uh

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doing it which we're going into speaking

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of that let's get this right out of the

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way too before i forget people are

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always listening in the beginning right

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so uh i'm gonna drop in the show notes

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here guys or excuse me

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in the show notes so i'm also gonna drop

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in the chat if anybody would like to

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follow your work or you on twitter i'm

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gonna drop those in the chat for

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everybody right now as well like i said

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if you're listening back it is going to

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be in the show notes but do you have any

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upcoming projects because if i'm not

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mistaken i i just watched it back

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actually today because they've been a

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little bit since they've been released

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is it give or take been about 10 months

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maybe give or take your last video no no

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no no no it's been like a month yeah

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no way yeah yeah yeah

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yeah that's okay well that's on me i

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apologize because

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i i watched today the one i was watching

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excuse me was the edgar mitchell and did

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i just have the date miss did i just

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maybe you just used for no reason

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i totally did yes okay all right never

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mind that's not me guys i thought it

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said

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what are you gonna put another one out

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no yeah no that was just one month

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i got you but yeah so as of right now

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yeah because you've accumulated man 25

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26 videos at this point documentaries

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you could say

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and roughly what 10 to 12-ish hours

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worth of content you've put out at this

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point

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yeah i think somewhere around there i

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did the math once

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nice

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yeah so now leading up to this because

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and there's a lot that we get covered

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tonight well first before we jump into

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that

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is there anything in the works do we

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have anything we can look forward to

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that you think might be coming up yeah

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so i'm right now i'm working on uh i

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have a series on my channel which is

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like current news recaps and i've

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already done three of those and that's

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just kind of all the major um news

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developments since 2017 whether it be

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like

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various politicians active and retired

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um okay so right now i'm working on the

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fourth installment of that which covers

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uh right before the report dropped in

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june up until december so it covers the

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june report

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uh all these various statements we got

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from politicians during that time and

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then the gila brand amendment ao

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imsg

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and then like all the way up to like

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harry reid's passing probably is where

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i'll end that one

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okay so

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that one's coming along together good i

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was pretty beat though after that edgar

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mitchell one because that one took me

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forever that was like really long that

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was a great one that's funny enough

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later on as we go on the evening here i

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do have a clip for everybody that we'll

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be sharing from that one that i thought

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was pretty inspirational um and i

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watched it the first time like i said i

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rewatched it again today

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and it really stuck out to me i mean i

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think i kind of heard it the first time

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that i was playing while i was working

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and so i had time to actually sit there

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and really take it all in today just you

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know not not trying to work while i'm

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listening

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and i do think with yours i do think you

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could totally you know i was gonna say

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that

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you know most documentaries you kind of

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have to watch where it's just you need

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to be able to see the visual aspect of

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it too

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i think you're going to get more from

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yours in that but you have set this up

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in a way that someone could potentially

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just listen as i did

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via an audio format and still gain just

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as much out of it and so i really

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appreciate that you that's incorporated

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that into that so

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carol says what's up red panda carol

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thank you for being here tonight as well

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carol as well as daryl yeah there's some

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new ones jumping in here tonight um oh

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thank you for whoever did that like over

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there on facebook he never shows us

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right off the bat who that is and carol

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actually does some great work too she

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does um a little bit different than what

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you're doing but she specializes more

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into paranormal realm

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or you could say like a creepypasta kind

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of stories and she does uh anywhere from

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five to one words i think carol you've

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done some 18 minute ones now

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of kind of voice over stuff as well

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but

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when you i guess

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embark upon this process because i don't

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think people really recognize like okay

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guys for example it could be wrong but i

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think the edgar mitchell one is an hour

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nine or ten minutes somewhere right in

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that range yeah that one is huge

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is my biggest one production

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most arrested leading up to have been

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roughly that half hour range right give

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or take

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and so

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you'd build up that i guess i should say

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i think you did have something to get in

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like 16 15 minutes but as you were

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saying leading up to that your normal

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ones in the beginning how long did it

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take you once you kind of found your

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groove so when you started making a half

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hour long documentary for us to consume

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was that time like real time for you to

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actually produce that make it happen

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i say a rough estimate is usually like

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about an hour

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of work for like a minute of whatever's

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going on on screen

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um but for the ones like this edgar

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mitchell one because i guess we could

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just talk about it a little bit for the

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people in the chat

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watching

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this one was kind of ambitious because

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this one i had was trying to tell the

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story of like multiple things because

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edgar mitchell i just find super

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fascinating just as a human he's like

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probably top five for me

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uh

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because i would tell people this he's

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kind of like a forrest gump of just like

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one

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in general just general history but then

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also of like rocketry

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ufo stuff and also like remote viewing

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stuff

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and

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what i say in the video too is like by

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studying his life like you can see the

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histories of all these different things

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so that one it's like

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an edgar mitchell documentary but also

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kind of inside of it i try and sneak in

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like an apollo documentary and even like

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a remote viewing documentary and like a

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warner von braun documentary and like a

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mini

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robert goddard the father of rocketry so

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like all these different things like

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so that one that

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basically that edgar mitchell one took

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me a long time to make

554
00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:27,440
but uh

555
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:29,520
because yeah i read a lot too very well

556
00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:32,000
done and it's really like i said faris

557
00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:32,960
and i you know another thing i really

558
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:34,720
appreciate about what you do too is it

559
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:36,160
um and we try to do this here at the

560
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:37,760
garage a lot ben and joe are excellent

561
00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:39,120
at this i i mean i strive to try and

562
00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,039
catch up to them on it and that is you

563
00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:43,520
know we give a very uh

564
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:45,280
we take things very serious but we also

565
00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:47,280
take a light-hearted approach i think

566
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,559
you take your work very seriously

567
00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:50,400
obviously but what i respect that you do

568
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:52,559
that we try to do here as well is give a

569
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:54,799
balanced position on it which is hey

570
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:56,880
here's what we have but this has also

571
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:58,799
been said right so

572
00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:00,320
we really do try to do that here to

573
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:02,640
provide both sides uh of what could be

574
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:04,240
going on

575
00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:06,160
and i guess you know the old thing like

576
00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,320
playing switzerland and everything but i

577
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,400
think you do in a very uh respectable

578
00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:12,559
manner that you're not selling anything

579
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:13,840
you're not really

580
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:15,760
pushing any one agenda or the other

581
00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:18,480
you're providing is specifically the

582
00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:21,679
um the last new there with mitchell he

583
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:23,440
that one in particular was like you said

584
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:25,039
it gave because of being history you're

585
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:27,120
able to respect it keep the integrity of

586
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:28,960
it in place and not maybe

587
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,640
i don't want to say in the wrong way but

588
00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:32,640
warp it i guess you see some people put

589
00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:34,160
out documentaries and they you can very

590
00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:35,840
much still see

591
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:38,799
uh the influence of what we believe now

592
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:40,480
and even though you did give those

593
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,600
opinions saying here's what we kind of

594
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,120
know now or whatever but at the time

595
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:45,360
even when we share stories right on the

596
00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:46,880
show here we always try to say put

597
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,480
yourself in that and you did a great job

598
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:50,320
of that saying you know it's 19 you know

599
00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:52,080
whatever year might have been 47 first

600
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:54,080
of all the fact that he was in roswell

601
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:56,480
when that all happened i did not know

602
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:59,039
that actually i don't know why but i did

603
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,400
just did not

604
00:20:04,390 --> 00:20:02,480
it was never he's main character he's a

605
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:04,400
main character of this world that we

606
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:06,799
live in he kind of is like the forest

607
00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:07,760
gump

608
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:08,559
dude

609
00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:10,640
you bet so many people i guess for

610
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,840
people watching you don't know i'll just

611
00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:13,360
do a quick rundown of like all the

612
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:14,559
horoscopes

613
00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:17,120
of edgar mitchell so

614
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:18,480
grew up

615
00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:20,480
um had to move because of the dust bowl

616
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:22,240
which is like pretty forest gump as a

617
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:23,840
kid his family moved to roswell new

618
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,960
mexico

619
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,320
um

620
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:28,240
he claims he was able to hear the ground

621
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:30,640
shake and like see like lights in the

622
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:33,120
sky from the distance of the atomic test

623
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:34,960
at the white sands base

624
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:36,799
he would used to walk by the house of

625
00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:38,159
robert goddard who like basically

626
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,159
invented american rocketry

627
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:42,080
uh he lived in roswell and he was like a

628
00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:43,600
teenager when the crash happened and

629
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:46,159
like remembers listening to the radio

630
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:47,840
and planned on going out there with his

631
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:48,799
friends

632
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:50,799
and then it gets into like

633
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:52,720
just plain stuff uh he did a bunch of

634
00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,720
test pilot work he worked he was in the

635
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:57,039
korean war he flew with chuck yeager

636
00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:59,760
then he got into nasa went to the moon

637
00:21:02,149 --> 00:21:00,720
which like not that many people have

638
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,159
been to the moon i feel like it's kind

639
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:04,400
of a big deal right yes

640
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:06,080
instantly someone's like hey i built a

641
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:08,799
truck like yeah i went to the moon so

642
00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:10,000
one

643
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,080
yeah and then back to our subject he was

644
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:14,480
all involved with ufos and remote

645
00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:16,960
viewing and like hal put off and sri and

646
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:19,120
the 1970s and

647
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:20,320
he was just all over and the hippie

648
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:22,000
movement he was also like a hippie for a

649
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,000
little bit there and

650
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:25,919
he's just very interesting man

651
00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:28,080
that was to say it is pretty interesting

652
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,840
the

653
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,640
uh

654
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:33,039
the amount of characters that we

655
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:34,880
and i guess this is the way of life i

656
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,880
guess in nature or history

657
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:38,880
is that we don't always fully recognize

658
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,240
right we don't always fully appreciate

659
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:41,760
our parents until you become a parent

660
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:42,799
you know it's

661
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:44,720
we don't always recognize just how

662
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:46,960
amazing one person's life might actually

663
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:48,320
be until history gets a little bit

664
00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:49,840
further down the road

665
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:51,440
um and for those that don't know

666
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,640
obviously you hit on this i mean he

667
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:54,400
passed away and i i don't know the exact

668
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:57,280
date but it was in 2016 was it near the

669
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,039
fall maybe or something i want to say it

670
00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:01,280
was like february february okay you

671
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,720
might have been right around where we

672
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,400
are right now let's see yeah you're

673
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:06,080
right might be really close actually

674
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,880
because i remember it was like the

675
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:08,480
anniversary of his apollo flight which i

676
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,679
think

677
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:11,039
they just had their like touchdown

678
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:13,600
anniversary a few days mm-hmm

679
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:15,840
apollo february 4th is when he february

680
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,640
4.

681
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,720
such a good memory i would have never

682
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:20,000
remembered that thank you tammy by the

683
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,200
way for taking care of the bots over

684
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,200
there for us uh swinging that wrench you

685
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:25,120
guys watch it or tammy will take you out

686
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:26,720
she's like a ninja

687
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:29,039
uh so anyways yeah when he uh passed

688
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:30,880
away there because so much feels like it

689
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,840
just ramped up from 2016 to now i mean

690
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,600
you look at where the conversation was

691
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:36,960
relation to

692
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,679
the ufo topic as a whole

693
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:41,280
whether that be

694
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,760
physical crafts physical beings

695
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,840
or the idea of even consciousness which

696
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,679
i love that he was dealing with that as

697
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,600
well he was so early right so like even

698
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:51,039
before valet

699
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:55,840
he was a true visionary

700
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:57,039
and he could be wrong on a lot of

701
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,400
aspects but like i said in the video

702
00:23:01,669 --> 00:23:00,320
like i used to respect him for like just

703
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:01,679
not even caring what anyone else thought

704
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:02,480
and just

705
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:03,919
doing what he was interested in and

706
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,200
trying to find the answers that he was

707
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,679
trying to find and he he did try and

708
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:09,600
stay grounded but he definitely was kind

709
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:12,240
of crazy to like not crazy but like

710
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:13,919
eccentric maybe would be a good way to

711
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,960
use

712
00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:16,480
and he would tell you that so if he knew

713
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:18,400
he was aware it's like he didn't think

714
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:20,080
he was so

715
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:21,039
right

716
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:23,200
and you know it is pretty amazing though

717
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,280
like the fact that he had the chance to

718
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,039
be able to test out

719
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:29,360
uh the whole idea of oh i forget the

720
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:32,159
exact term that they put on it

721
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,640
it'd be um

722
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:36,320
i forget the technical term they use on

723
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,600
this but it's the idea of kind of like

724
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,440
remotely before one person to another

725
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,880
right what is that it's it's there's a

726
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:43,039
different term i think they use for it

727
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:44,320
but it'd be where you would think of

728
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:45,440
something and i would try to write those

729
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,720
images down and um just the idea that

730
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,039
there seems to be a conscious connection

731
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,720
from distance right beyond

732
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:54,960
that surpasses space and time

733
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:55,919
and and

734
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:58,000
did not know either with you hitting on

735
00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:00,320
that a little bit that warner von braun

736
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:01,760
i did not know that was something he was

737
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,400
also interested in for all the

738
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,400
you know many opinions we might have

739
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:07,919
surrounding him and his

740
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:10,159
history i guess his place in history

741
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:11,520
uh i didn't know that was something he

742
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,600
was curious about or at least looking

743
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:15,120
into and then even meeting with yuri

744
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:17,440
geller like the fact that that meeting

745
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,880
even took place

746
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:20,320
right

747
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:22,000
i mean and you even hit on you said

748
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:23,520
there was some sparks that flew a little

749
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,720
bit clearly and for those that don't

750
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,200
know yuri geller obviously was a

751
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:29,120
pretty big deal

752
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:30,720
people have a lot of opinions about that

753
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:34,720
as well uh an israeli who have claimed

754
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:37,520
to have a lot of telekinesis and

755
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:38,799
abilities

756
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,120
and some of it

757
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:43,200
seemed provable in certain situations

758
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:44,640
and some of it someone said he was just

759
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,200
a fraud so but either way him and him

760
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:48,799
and warner von braun meeting obviously

761
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:50,799
with the history of like the war had not

762
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:52,159
really been over for that long we're

763
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:53,360
only talking i think when they met not

764
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:56,000
even 10 years if not maybe well it was

765
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,159
it would have been like the early 70s so

766
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,480
that would have been like what oh i

767
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:02,320
thought i was 55 i was white man you

768
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,440
guys you know what i should have been

769
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,679
like 20 years was it 20 years okay it

770
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:07,440
would have been around 20 like 25 years

771
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,799
which is still not that long like that

772
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:10,559
would have been like if world war ii had

773
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,400
happened in like 97 or something and

774
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:14,320
then we had to all be cool with each

775
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,279
other

776
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,120
right and it's like his family like

777
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,880
legit died in world war ii it wasn't

778
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,880
even like my great-grandparents or

779
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,559
something it was like yeah

780
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:24,480
literally yeah yeah it's a very

781
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:25,760
different thing i can imagine like you

782
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:26,799
said i was telling the story of a

783
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:28,159
grandparent or great grandparent we've

784
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:29,919
never met which is still a lot but then

785
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,400
to actually be like this is my family

786
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,559
directly that i grew up with is you know

787
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,520
um as uh daryl was saying here he said

788
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,360
the spoon thing was sus you know what

789
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,279
anytime by the way red anytime we get

790
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,520
suss in this uh over here whatever

791
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:44,640
you're drinking tonight you get to take

792
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:46,080
a sip off so anybody in the chat please

793
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:47,440
take a sip of whatever you are drinking

794
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:48,880
this fine evening

795
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:52,000
somagua over there very nice uh but yeah

796
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:53,120
he

797
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:56,080
obviously for those that don't know we

798
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,840
do the the work with uh dave scott over

799
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,600
there spaced out radio on the weekends

800
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,240
myself jimmy jade john hudson and then

801
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,320
lizzie borden and we just recently had

802
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:06,080
covered him a little bit he wasn't the

803
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:07,039
main character the story we were

804
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:08,559
covering but he he claimed that he said

805
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:11,679
if you put on those old um

806
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,480
interviews that today you can still get

807
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,880
people who can bend spoons or forks

808
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,840
uh

809
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:19,200
into

810
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,400
like that was a big thing there were

811
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,320
spoon-bending parties that were going on

812
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,880
and stuff yeah that's crazy right and

813
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:26,400
then intriguing

814
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:27,279
that's one of the things that you're

815
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,880
mitchell said even like convinced him of

816
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,840
yuri that i talked about in the

817
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,360
documentary i made is

818
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:33,200
those tapes that you're referencing they

819
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,480
would play him in the bay area and then

820
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:36,640
like parents would be calling so and

821
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,240
edgar claims that initially he was like

822
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,559
so super skeptical of yuri which i don't

823
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:42,240
know if i believe that but

824
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,360
that he's that's one of the things that

825
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:45,120
he said really uh

826
00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:47,520
convinced him was that

827
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,080
other random people that like seemingly

828
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,240
didn't have any connection to stanford

829
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:53,919
research institute

830
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,840
were having their kids be able to bend

831
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,760
spoons that often they would bring and

832
00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:00,240
test themselves and

833
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,159
so i don't know who knows do you know

834
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,400
he's the like uh

835
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,400
inspiration for

836
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,159
kadabra the pokemon and he was the

837
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,720
reason why um you couldn't

838
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:12,240
just until i think this year that that

839
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,520
you could uh

840
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:16,080
they sold cadabra pokemon cards

841
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,720
i did not know that see

842
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:21,039
a fountain a wealth of knowledge ladies

843
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,720
and gentlemen this is why you should

844
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,159
go subscribe

845
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:26,399
to his youtube channel as well as your

846
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:27,919
uh you post quite a bit over on twitter

847
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,000
i cannot give a great explanation to

848
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,480
that one or account of that because i'm

849
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,240
not on twitter enough i'll be honest

850
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,840
guys i try my best but i'm not on there

851
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,120
consistently

852
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,880
uh but i know for a fact that obviously

853
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,720
you do post when i go on you you've

854
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,640
updated usually more than that

855
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,080
i usually just retweet like interesting

856
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,640
current news articles and stuff but yeah

857
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,480
if you want to follow me go ahead

858
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:50,880
very good uh well now really quick what

859
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,159
i'd like to do is before we go any

860
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:53,919
further as we're coming up on near the

861
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,080
top of the hour here so

862
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,320
let's dive back into a little bit about

863
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:00,000
yourself um obviously we're gonna be

864
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,520
going back into your work but i'd like

865
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,360
to hit before we jump into that just

866
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:05,039
kind of your background in this did

867
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,399
let's let's go back as far back as

868
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:09,039
childhood early on did you have vision

869
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:10,880
of doing this kind of work was this

870
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:13,679
something that intrigued you

871
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:14,799
no

872
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,159
the earliest maybe like seed things of

873
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:20,240
me doing what i'm doing now is like

874
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,279
uh

875
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:23,120
when i was in college i was always in a

876
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,720
history but like in college got really

877
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:26,080
really into history

878
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,520
and i thought it'd be really cool to be

879
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,520
able to be like a just a typical history

880
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,880
youtuber like

881
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,480
rome and stuff like that you know what i

882
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:35,039
mean world war ii world war one whatever

883
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,880
uh actually i really wanted to do cold

884
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,320
war history

885
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,760
i felt like there was a dish there at

886
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:41,200
that time

887
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,000
yep

888
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:45,279
so i really wanted to do that um

889
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,960
and then i was saving up for a computer

890
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:49,279
i graduated college in 2016 and i was

891
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,159
saving up for a computer and then

892
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,480
in 2017 is when the new york times

893
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,600
article happened and that's when uh

894
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,880
i uh

895
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,480
i really like took the

896
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,320
the red pill went down the rabbit hole

897
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,080
whatever you want to say at that time

898
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,720
so yeah not like growing up not too much

899
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,720
like i would listen to coast coast but

900
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:10,320
not too much it was only really until

901
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:12,080
2017 that i really went all in on the

902
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,440
ufo stuff

903
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,360
like did my deep dive did my research

904
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:17,279
just because i didn't really ever have

905
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,159
like the time or reason to prior to that

906
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:22,159
true but really

907
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:25,679
it is so funny how people stumble into

908
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:26,720
um

909
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,919
this i guess you know that's one of the

910
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,960
things we even mentioned how did how did

911
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,520
you end up on this life path

912
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:33,120
we're hitting on that a little bit here

913
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,559
with the transition between you were

914
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,080
looking at you know just standard

915
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:38,399
turning out good uh you know reports of

916
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:39,440
what happened in history really

917
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:41,600
reporting the facts as it were

918
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:43,520
what led you i guess what was besides

919
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:45,679
the jump there in 2016 was that kind of

920
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:47,679
the jump had you tried to do just

921
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,520
history at any point leading before you

922
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,279
started this particular channel no i

923
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,440
hadn't even like started that i was

924
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,200
still in the saving mode for that point

925
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:57,039
so and then when it happened and i was

926
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,480
like hmm

927
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:00,480
like this is interesting timing and i

928
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,799
was like when i did my research for ufo

929
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,960
stuff i was like oh i feel like the kind

930
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,480
of channel i envisioned for my history

931
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,799
channel could be really useful

932
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,720
for the ufo stuff and even more like

933
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,880
applicable to our current time because

934
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,480
who knows this could all be drones but

935
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:16,159
maybe it's uh

936
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,840
like something else and and the only way

937
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,960
we'll get there is if we have informed

938
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:20,240
discussions about it and there's like

939
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,399
all this lore that like people have to

940
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,399
kind of get caught up with

941
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,679
so i was like

942
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,840
okay i'll do this instead and it's kind

943
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,880
of um

944
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:30,480
i tell people this too

945
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,600
one of the things i found the most

946
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,799
interesting about the cold war was how

947
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:33,919
it kind of like

948
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:36,880
encompassed like the entirety of

949
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,559
the century it was in

950
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:40,480
in like all these different ways and if

951
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,919
you kind of look at the ufo issue it's

952
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:43,600
pretty similar in my opinion where it's

953
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:44,399
like

954
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:54,640
chess board game that's been going on

955
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,200
for lord knows how long about this uh

956
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:59,440
the subject of ours

957
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:00,559
well let's sit on that for a second

958
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,480
since you brought it up i mean what was

959
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,559
your opinion prior to leading into the

960
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:06,000
stuff again kind of dealing with the

961
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,840
childhood growing up did you watch i

962
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:09,600
mean what was the idea i think i'm not

963
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:11,679
sure of your exact age but i feel like

964
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:14,320
close-ish to our generation we had the

965
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,640
movies you know we had independence day

966
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:18,240
we had different ones that influenced us

967
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:20,000
and we're pretty readily available and

968
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:21,919
we're in the mainstream media

969
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,080
but did you take the topic seriously or

970
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,159
was it just strictly that's hollywood's

971
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,159
idea yeah it was just strictly hollywood

972
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,240
for me during that time um

973
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:32,720
yeah i didn't really think about it too

974
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:33,840
hard

975
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:35,600
hmm yeah i didn't even really watch like

976
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:37,120
documentaries about it back in the day

977
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:38,799
so no not really never really thought

978
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,519
about it gotcha you were more like just

979
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:43,120
this the standard so no history

980
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,399
obviously interests you though you were

981
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,799
interested in that idea right yeah so

982
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:48,799
i got you i have to admit for myself

983
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:50,000
that was one of the things that i when i

984
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:51,200
got hooked in

985
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:53,519
um and some people i get it that

986
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:54,720
i always say we've all got different

987
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,279
parts to play right um

988
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,360
i don't think that we should try you

989
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:01,440
have an amazing skill set i could not

990
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:02,720
try to replicate that that's just not

991
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,880
what i do right i would love to do that

992
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,480
but i just that doesn't come naturally

993
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:08,640
to me and because of that i always tell

994
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,760
people that

995
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:10,960
one of the things i love doing is

996
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,840
sharing the old stories but inaccurate

997
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:15,360
like i respect that you're doing that i

998
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,240
love accurately sharing what happened

999
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,480
and there is so much it's so exciting

1000
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,039
digging back into like the the 30s and

1001
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,840
40s and 50s 60s all of that because like

1002
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:27,200
you said even with the cold war and what

1003
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:28,960
took place in our history that way with

1004
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:30,880
us between us and russia and that whole

1005
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:31,760
thing

1006
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:35,200
um there's so much just like

1007
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,519
hidden uh easter eggs in my opinion

1008
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:39,039
that's why i love finding when i can

1009
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,480
come across that

1010
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:42,080
and so many people have done amazing

1011
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,960
work

1012
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:44,799
that we now respect

1013
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,640
but unfortunately you know like even we

1014
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,320
could say in you know mitchell's case mr

1015
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,399
mitchell there he's unfortunately passed

1016
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,399
at this time right and it's like we're

1017
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,080
almost standing on these the shoulders

1018
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,159
of these giants who have laid this

1019
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:58,240
foundation and footwork that was heavily

1020
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,799
mocked i mean realistically

1021
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:02,399
it was not very well we weren't getting

1022
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:03,679
to do these we weren't getting to sit

1023
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:05,679
down could you imagine

1024
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,640
if they had had this technology then

1025
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,320
i constantly think about that i'm

1026
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:11,919
constantly like

1027
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:14,000
what would have how much

1028
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,519
faster would have we accelerated this

1029
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:17,200
process because it's already

1030
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:19,679
in my opinion it's it's cooking along i

1031
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:20,559
get we've had a little bit of a

1032
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:23,279
screeching halt here um since september

1033
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:25,360
since the big drop of last year

1034
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,480
but

1035
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:28,240
leading up to that going from 2016 to

1036
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,519
this we've been i mean we've been

1037
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:31,120
hauling along yeah if you compare it the

1038
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:32,640
whole way through and kind of like i

1039
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:35,039
don't know what you said uh that's kind

1040
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:36,320
of what i try and do with my channel is

1041
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:38,320
like bring the history to life because

1042
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,360
like you were saying there's so many

1043
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,880
people who were in this field for so

1044
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:42,640
long that just got ridiculed like edgar

1045
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,600
mitchell

1046
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,120
or even some of the more like

1047
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:47,519
traditional scientists like um

1048
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:50,080
james mcdonald or heineken

1049
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:51,200
and

1050
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:53,519
we all know like the current report is

1051
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,159
like uh basically kind of

1052
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,080
gaslighting is the term they use these

1053
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:00,480
days right us and and kind of wanting us

1054
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:02,799
to ignore all of the history and

1055
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,240
um i've said this before too it's like

1056
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,880
uh i kind of feel like there's this era

1057
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:09,119
of arrogance sometimes when people talk

1058
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:11,359
about ufos today it's like oh well now

1059
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:12,320
all of a sudden we're taking them

1060
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,679
seriously so we could talk about it

1061
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:15,520
because they never did in the past but

1062
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:16,720
it's like no

1063
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:19,280
they did do it in the past and there was

1064
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,240
active measures to like discredit people

1065
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,399
um yeah the example i gave to ifo j and

1066
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,159
i was talking here was like if avi loeb

1067
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:27,760
was like doing what he was doing a few

1068
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,359
decades ago his like career would have

1069
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:31,200
been ruined just like james mcdonald you

1070
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,800
know what i mean so

1071
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:34,879
sometimes when i see people

1072
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,839
uh

1073
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,839
tout the galileo project which is a

1074
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,440
great thing but they act like it's like

1075
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,520
the first time this has ever been tried

1076
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:43,679
it just that to me is an indicator that

1077
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,919
there's this huge historical background

1078
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:48,000
that people are just like missing out on

1079
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,200
and don't know

1080
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,879
that they should know

1081
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:52,800
you know so true

1082
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,679
you know

1083
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,159
one of the things that i i

1084
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:58,560
if you look at uh

1085
00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:59,760
like you're saying hitting on that

1086
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,680
specifically far as the way it's been

1087
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,320
shared all they had was their ability to

1088
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:06,400
to give a conference or have a

1089
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,760
conference

1090
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:09,119
and people showed up or they didn't show

1091
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,640
up or they wrote a book

1092
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,359
and they so often got thrown into that

1093
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,280
pseudo-science

1094
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,960
operation and

1095
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:19,520
now as history often does i mean this

1096
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,960
isn't really anything new we've seen all

1097
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,920
the

1098
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:24,000
those that have made great inventions

1099
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:25,280
and and really

1100
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,480
pushed uh humankind forward over time

1101
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:30,400
we're usually mocked at the time that it

1102
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,599
was coming out

1103
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,000
but i think that

1104
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,240
i i guess maybe we maybe we don't even

1105
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,000
fully recognize the precipice that we're

1106
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:40,560
standing on because i feel like this

1107
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:42,800
thing is going to go one or two ways

1108
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:44,079
and one of the things that does bother

1109
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,520
me a little bit i get it was preliminary

1110
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,800
i get that all those reports coming out

1111
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:48,320
for the big you know congress finally

1112
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:50,800
recognizing it but the saying hey and

1113
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,000
i'm not mistaken guys i could be a

1114
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:53,599
little bit wrong in these these numbers

1115
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,760
here but i believe they said 2004 and

1116
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:58,160
beyond they're just throwing out right

1117
00:36:01,109 --> 00:36:00,079
they're only looking at 2004 and going

1118
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:01,119
forward

1119
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,920
well

1120
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:03,760
that's fine and dandy for those that

1121
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,680
just want you know like well we gotta

1122
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,440
have multiple radars to confirm we gotta

1123
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:09,119
have this and this and that but you're

1124
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:12,960
taking so many stories and you're just

1125
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,960
throwing them to the wayside now i don't

1126
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:16,560
think that we're necessarily lacking

1127
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,320
stories there are many many more stories

1128
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:20,079
coming out but you're throwing away

1129
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,280
things like

1130
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:23,440
you know for instance the the the school

1131
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,880
like the big sighting there the school

1132
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:27,119
there um aerial zimbabwe

1133
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,720
yes thank you and lizzy's gonna be

1134
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,320
bringing that forward for us over at sr

1135
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,640
tomorrow night um you're just throwing

1136
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,480
stuff like that to the wayside where

1137
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:36,800
it's not like it's just one and again i

1138
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,839
always like to hear people out but it's

1139
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,359
not like it's just one or two people

1140
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,480
that you can't really cooperate their

1141
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,560
story we're talking i think was it 90

1142
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,720
plus children give or take and like

1143
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:46,640
adult teachers too right or no teachers

1144
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:48,960
as well uh it's it's just one of those

1145
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:51,599
things that to me it it it irks me a

1146
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,440
little bit because knowing that history

1147
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,440
i don't like to see history lost we

1148
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:56,960
don't always have to like history we

1149
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,040
don't certainly have to agree with it

1150
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,960
but i think it is important to teach it

1151
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,359
accurately so that we maintain the

1152
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,359
substance and really truly honor those

1153
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,839
that maybe did live through some

1154
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,280
indifferences let's honor what they went

1155
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,320
through by accurately telling the story

1156
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,960
um and then again that's my that's maybe

1157
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:16,240
i'll even for joan pen be like that's

1158
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,680
separate from ben and joe that's big

1159
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:19,920
willy rant there but it it kind of bugs

1160
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,079
me because those numbers

1161
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,920
work

1162
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,359
like a lot of people like i try to make

1163
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:27,520
videos about are like dead and deserve

1164
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,640
to be living through what we're living

1165
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,880
through more than like i do

1166
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,800
and it's just there a lot of people

1167
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:34,400
don't even know about it hopefully

1168
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:35,440
eventually they'll learn more about

1169
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:37,040
these people but

1170
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:38,720
yeah especially for like the person

1171
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:40,400
who's not really deep like we are i'm

1172
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,760
sure they just don't even know about

1173
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,160
like kehoe or heineck or any of these

1174
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:45,680
figures from history

1175
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,960
well that's you know it's funny back in

1176
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:48,240
the day when i had the channel with my

1177
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,839
brother which ben helped design stuff

1178
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,440
for us back in the day but one of the

1179
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,280
first i think was our second episode we

1180
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,800
ever did yeah it was the second episode

1181
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,480
we were like i was gonna do ufos right

1182
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:58,079
i'm gonna cover that and i wrote this

1183
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,680
like massive

1184
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,920
list of stuff we're gonna cover and it

1185
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,079
was terrible um and thank god he stopped

1186
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,920
me was like just talk from the heart

1187
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:07,040
because i was like trying to read the

1188
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,280
script i was like and then this so it

1189
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:11,680
just wasn't good but it was it was like

1190
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,400
it was like a probably 10 page email

1191
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,079
like it was huge i found like everything

1192
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:18,960
i could ever find from at the time

1193
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,040
uh what was it it was just coming out

1194
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,280
for um louis lozando was just hitting

1195
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,280
the scene right that was just being

1196
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,119
rumored to have ended back in 2004 all

1197
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:29,440
that right that had ended and

1198
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,720
that was the timeline i was trying to

1199
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:33,119
set was from project grudge essentially

1200
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:34,240
yeah

1201
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,160
and i was like oh my gosh there's a lot

1202
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,640
even going on like wikipedia right which

1203
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:40,560
is hitter guys it's wikipedia but i

1204
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,599
understand it's where everybody goes so

1205
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:43,359
i will usually use that as like a focal

1206
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:46,800
point at first to get started but with

1207
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:48,560
that my brother realized we started

1208
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,920
breaking down the numbers that doctor

1209
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:52,000
elliot jaylen heineck broke down and if

1210
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,520
you break out the military's number now

1211
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,440
jaylen hoddy said 18

1212
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:57,359
of all cases he ever studied in those 20

1213
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,640
plus years

1214
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:00,320
he could he didn't have a rational

1215
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,720
explanation for the military subtracted

1216
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:03,760
those numbers down to something like

1217
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,520
three percent i think it was

1218
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,280
even taking that down to three percent

1219
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,040
it broke out to where we were

1220
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,680
every basically two and a half weeks it

1221
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:13,599
was every like 17 days there's an event

1222
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:15,359
they can't explain

1223
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,320
and that's just what the us was studying

1224
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,720
to me that's a big deal for 20 years you

1225
00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:23,280
had every 17 days you had some sort of

1226
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,680
and those ranged in variants of

1227
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:28,000
it it's said to be unexplainable so some

1228
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:30,160
could just be but he from what johnny

1229
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,240
hot j ellen heineck hit on it basically

1230
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,839
separated the

1231
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:35,040
he wasn't saying that those were

1232
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:36,160
instances where somebody just seen

1233
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:37,359
something in the past you're like well

1234
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,560
we'll never know what that was it was it

1235
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:41,040
was more the in-depth interactions with

1236
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:43,359
this so uh let's see really quick we

1237
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:45,040
have a question we never know what's

1238
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,560
going to happen once we get questions so

1239
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:48,560
let's see what happens here with kathy

1240
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:50,480
question what year did red panda koala

1241
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:53,680
graduate cia psyop school all kidding

1242
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:56,800
aside rpk is great very articulate and

1243
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:58,960
always ready to hit the nail on the head

1244
00:40:01,670 --> 00:40:00,560
kathy splash thank you for being here

1245
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,680
this morning

1246
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:03,359
that's like an honor that's like a badge

1247
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:04,880
of honor i feel like when you get

1248
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:07,119
accused of being a

1249
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,000
uh

1250
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:10,480
government

1251
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,760
i love it

1252
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:13,359
it does happen a lot and i kind of feel

1253
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,960
bad for those that

1254
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,800
i have mixed feelings i'm not gonna lie

1255
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,319
i mean we've all thought it there's some

1256
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,160
once in a while somebody comes out

1257
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,760
and they're like i worked for the

1258
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,960
government you know

1259
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,160
we didn't go down this rabbit hole

1260
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,760
tonight but luella zonda was the

1261
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,920
prototype of that for a long time right

1262
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,359
richard dodie i think was the one before

1263
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,079
him but you have these ones

1264
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,319
yeah anjali's another one even right now

1265
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:36,319
we have john ramirez right i love

1266
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,280
someone oh yeah was hitting on him

1267
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:41,599
i respect what he's bringing forth but i

1268
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,640
also do get people's apprehension

1269
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,079
i have mixed feelings like i said

1270
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,760
because of doing that in-depth deep

1271
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:49,359
relationship between the

1272
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:52,160
the us government military in particular

1273
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:53,920
had the black budget projects that

1274
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:56,880
existed and the phenomenon as a whole

1275
00:41:04,069 --> 00:40:59,760
it yeah you have trust issues because

1276
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,079
you have very clearly covered this up so

1277
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,400
exactly how can you trust them like

1278
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:08,800
they lied about this for so long

1279
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,760
i think it's

1280
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:11,440
and i've never met lou hopefully one day

1281
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:13,760
i will he seems like a nice guy and uh

1282
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,960
yeah

1283
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,640
i like i like to think that from where

1284
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:18,240
we are right now that he's gonna be like

1285
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,520
a great guy and like he's not going to

1286
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,280
pull a richard dodie on us

1287
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,960
but i think we should all have our guard

1288
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,800
up for anyone and honestly even me too

1289
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,560
and you like anybody watching any

1290
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,160
information about this like

1291
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,240
you should do your own research and

1292
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,160
cross-check stuff and you never know

1293
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,480
this this subject has been so

1294
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,560
coddled for so long i just don't buy the

1295
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,160
idea that it's all of a sudden like okay

1296
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,839
here you go it's like i still think

1297
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:41,760
there's varying levels of degree of

1298
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,280
control over

1299
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,839
every aspect of this narrative

1300
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,520
and that's kind of what's bothered me is

1301
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,599
like so ben and joe have hit on we've

1302
00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:50,880
hit on this before because when they

1303
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,160
first started the show uh

1304
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:55,440
2019 give or take it was like very end

1305
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:57,040
of 2019 somewhere right in there oh nice

1306
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:58,079
maybe it's the beginning somewhere in

1307
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:58,800
there

1308
00:42:01,190 --> 00:42:00,000
uh they were at the point where we're

1309
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,200
like oh man some things are kind of

1310
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:02,960
happened but nothing had really popped

1311
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:05,680
off just yet we had obviously um you

1312
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,720
know everything that happened out there

1313
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:08,319
with the tic tac incident there were

1314
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:09,599
some of those things that were finally

1315
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,680
being talked about on like cnn or fox

1316
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:13,359
and that was the big deal at the time i

1317
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:14,800
was like oh my gosh there's some

1318
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,200
mainstream media who's actually sharing

1319
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:19,520
the story and not as a hit piece right

1320
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:21,520
they're not playing you know the x-files

1321
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,960
theme song in the background or whatever

1322
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:24,240
maybe they're actually kind of talking

1323
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,440
about this

1324
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:27,200
and what's weird is joan better like man

1325
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:28,560
just come on admit like when are they

1326
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,839
just going to admit it and now that

1327
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,599
that's almost happened though

1328
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,040
they've said and i kind of agree with

1329
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,480
them there's something weird inside of

1330
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,240
me i don't know what it is

1331
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:37,680
but there's a little bit of like

1332
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:40,000
apprehension like something just feels

1333
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:43,280
off about it i can't put my finger on it

1334
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,800
but there's something about this coming

1335
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,560
to fruition that just

1336
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,880
doesn't feel like what it's going to

1337
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,880
really be what it is it feels like what

1338
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,079
they're trying to

1339
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:54,079
their interpretation or manifestation of

1340
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,839
what they want it to be

1341
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:57,839
because i truly think the the phenomenon

1342
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,880
is if it's is real it's an entirety

1343
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:02,960
cannot be controlled it isn't going to

1344
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,400
be monetized necessarily

1345
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:08,319
it certainly could be if people control

1346
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,839
it but i'm saying if we truly had

1347
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,960
disclosure i mean what

1348
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,119
like you said i mean it changes why a

1349
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,680
student says but it changes the world

1350
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,920
overnight depending on what rate it

1351
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:21,359
happens

1352
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:22,720
and like we were talking about earlier

1353
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:23,839
like they're not even talking about

1354
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:26,720
pre-2004 stuff so it's like you guys you

1355
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,760
guys want us to trust you but you don't

1356
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:30,000
even want to go back all the way like

1357
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:31,200
what okay

1358
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,960
exactly yeah that part right there was

1359
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:35,359
like for me um yeah and like you were

1360
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,359
saying there's lots of stuff i think we

1361
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,760
both uh we both feel that when it comes

1362
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:42,000
to the history of it of just like

1363
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:43,040
it's like i feel like we're

1364
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:46,240
disrespecting them to be honest yeah

1365
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:47,839
when we act like they didn't exist and

1366
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,720
like

1367
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,480
galileo project is the first ever

1368
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,920
scientific

1369
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:53,440
and i don't want to sound like a level

1370
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:54,560
partner because i really do but that's

1371
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,920
just like the go-to example because you

1372
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,200
see people

1373
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:58,880
uh neil degrasse tyson talked about it

1374
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,079
before and he's like oh well this is the

1375
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,000
first time it's ever being taken

1376
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:04,079
seriously by academia and it's like do

1377
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:05,680
you guys not realize like there's a

1378
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:08,960
reason why it wasn't until 2022

1379
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:10,720
you know what i mean

1380
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,680
yeah but

1381
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:13,200
we'll see i don't know

1382
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:14,960
and we know they like

1383
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:17,280
we've seen varying levels of

1384
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,480
the way the establishment has been

1385
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,920
trying to control narratives given

1386
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,119
various topics that we don't have to

1387
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:23,359
like even touch on but just in the day

1388
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:25,440
of the internet and

1389
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,720
i i'm just curious to see what they're

1390
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:28,160
going to do once this is really all out

1391
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:30,000
there like

1392
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,960
i think they're going to they're going

1393
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,880
to clamp down hard i think

1394
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:34,640
for sure

1395
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:35,920
yeah we've already done like you said

1396
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,040
without even completely gone it we've

1397
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,960
seen it happen people know that

1398
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:40,319
independently in every company you have

1399
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,680
the right to run it the way you want to

1400
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,839
but has

1401
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:46,000
censored some stuff and filtered certain

1402
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:47,920
tag lines to certain people to the top

1403
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:50,400
of search histories we all remember the

1404
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,520
beauty

1405
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:52,640
maybe it was the horror show but the

1406
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,119
beauty of what youtube was in 2010

1407
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,359
oh my gosh you could type it in and it

1408
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:59,200
it's like you know it knows exactly what

1409
00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,560
you're looking for and it's going to

1410
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,079
give you

1411
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,000
you're looking for but today it'll give

1412
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,160
you like 10 pages of like

1413
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,240
corporate shilling

1414
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,839
you could type it in word for word and

1415
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,839
then yeah man

1416
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,760
you had to think about 14th page to find

1417
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:14,880
it

1418
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,109
i'm going to shake his hand and when he

1419
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:23,599
reaches out and squeezes it i'm going to

1420
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:26,079
scream and say he broke my hand so he

1421
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:29,200
has so he has to now tell me the ufo

1422
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,079
truth

1423
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,720
i need a plan to shake well that i guess

1424
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,560
that is the part you got to get in there

1425
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:36,400
and mr louis lazada looks like he could

1426
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:39,119
pack a powerful punch or a powerful

1427
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,680
handshake there so you never know he's

1428
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:43,680
got big arms and now he's evolved into

1429
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,800
bearded mode not even go t anymore oh no

1430
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:49,040
i haven't seen this he's going to pretty

1431
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,839
sure

1432
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,599
yeah i think he's gone he's going full

1433
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:52,960
beard blue

1434
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:55,359
so gosh this that's next level once you

1435
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:57,280
incorporate the beard

1436
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,430
but yeah you know so i it is intriguing

1437
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,720
you know i found too like in the

1438
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:08,240
conversation we're having and i suppose

1439
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,839
this helps have a ripple effect others

1440
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:11,040
that are listening

1441
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,760
is that i don't think we're all as

1442
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:15,599
divided on a lot of things that we think

1443
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,880
we are and that was kind of what my

1444
00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:18,079
brother and i way back into what our

1445
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:20,319
channel was trying to do is that

1446
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,119
uh

1447
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,800
you know we're not

1448
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,640
the mainstream media or whatever you be

1449
00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:25,760
is being put in front of you and you can

1450
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:27,280
even say this even like you said people

1451
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:28,560
watching us right now you should go

1452
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,760
check the things we're talking about

1453
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:31,200
look it up for yourself because first of

1454
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:32,880
all this is just

1455
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:34,960
my opinion but i feel that if i told you

1456
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:36,319
something or i convinced you of

1457
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,839
something eventually someone else is

1458
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:39,200
going to come along and can unconvince

1459
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,119
you or convince you something else

1460
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,040
until you prove it to yourself and you

1461
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:46,079
know for yourself that this is a factual

1462
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:48,000
thing and why you believe what you

1463
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,960
believe

1464
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:50,319
it's just not going to hold the same

1465
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,880
weight as me going well this is why

1466
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,560
it might be good starting point but yeah

1467
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,160
i strongly encourage people if you

1468
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:58,000
respect this stuff and you want to help

1469
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:59,680
make it go forward

1470
00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,720
you know

1471
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,319
and i don't think anybody i'm certainly

1472
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:04,240
not even close to an expert but dig into

1473
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,680
it like find a thing that you're

1474
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:07,440
interested in and what can you do to

1475
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:08,880
help bring that forward like ucr i

1476
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:10,240
respect them so much what they're doing

1477
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:11,880
over there

1478
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,240
foreign and me we're all doing great i

1479
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:16,079
think all this space we're doing

1480
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:17,119
everything

1481
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,079
for sure

1482
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:20,000
uh tim l flay thanks for being here

1483
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,520
tonight uh

1484
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:23,359
you know one of the things that they're

1485
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,640
doing though that i think is amazing is

1486
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,319
that like i said i have my apprehension

1487
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:28,480
with with the us government i get it my

1488
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,599
brother's one of those guys who if i

1489
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:31,280
can't feel it touch it smell it see it

1490
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:32,240
you know

1491
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:33,599
whatever it is take it home with me it

1492
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,240
isn't real and for him he he's one of

1493
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,119
those guys who basically um

1494
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:41,440
kathy slash we love you so much

1495
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,960
uh he is one of those ones who

1496
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:44,319
definitely

1497
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,760
needs the government to come out and say

1498
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,480
that it is okay and that yes we have for

1499
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,839
sure confirmed it you know what i mean

1500
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:51,520
now to be fair he has transitioned a

1501
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,960
little bit he's become more open to

1502
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,559
things but initially that's the kind of

1503
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,720
guy he was so i recognize there's a

1504
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,240
large portion of the population out

1505
00:48:01,910 --> 00:48:00,160
there who need

1506
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,920
uh something a little more than ancient

1507
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,160
aliens to come out and confirm to them

1508
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:06,720
that this indeed is taking place

1509
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,119
which is fair and as i said i totally

1510
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:11,200
get it and ucr having all that paperwork

1511
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:12,720
in place you guys can literally reach

1512
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,559
out to your local congress members and

1513
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:17,280
and state representatives that's amazing

1514
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:18,960
not enough people have you know really i

1515
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,520
think sat down and appreciated the work

1516
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:22,800
that i appreciate the work that they put

1517
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,480
in over there on that one that's just my

1518
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:26,079
two cents and i i really do appreciate

1519
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,880
you every day lou that too they really

1520
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:30,160
do like

1521
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,359
that's so much

1522
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,079
like time i could imagine and just like

1523
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:36,079
being in front of a screen and talking

1524
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,680
and having to read the chat and having

1525
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:39,359
to do this i'm gonna do that booking

1526
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,240
people

1527
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,040
every day like whoa that's crazy

1528
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,960
that is very true

1529
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:46,559
uh let's see well really quickly at

1530
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:47,599
least we have another question here

1531
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:50,720
maybe a statement by 509 excuse me 509

1532
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,280
divine pines which says what if i was

1533
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,960
surgically touched by three of them

1534
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,440
their tech put me into higher dimensions

1535
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,359
um and i think you're referring to

1536
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,680
excuse me uh because you have the scoop

1537
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,359
mark on your forehead correct you have

1538
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:05,359
actually more than one i believe

1539
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,760
but uh have you in your you know putting

1540
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:09,599
these out have you had contact ease

1541
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,480
because that's one of the things that

1542
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,920
ben and joe really break about here at

1543
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:14,000
the garage which is

1544
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:15,599
i'm sure you've even noticed this over

1545
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,880
the years

1546
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,440
uh let's say as a general rule of thumb

1547
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:22,079
love them they're what hooked me in but

1548
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:24,079
you know ancient aliens has a certain

1549
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,440
core group of people they're gonna roll

1550
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,520
with right they're not

1551
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:29,440
necessarily bringing in someone that i

1552
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,720
think like yourself who's doing great

1553
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:32,240
work maybe that's going to happen one

1554
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:34,000
day i'm rooting for you i'd be dead the

1555
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,559
point is that would be so dope right but

1556
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,839
you know they're not calling us up

1557
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:39,280
necessarily and ben and joe said listen

1558
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:40,480
there's so many other people out there

1559
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,920
who have had these experiences i think

1560
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:43,119
if you ask anybody have you ever had

1561
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,240
something you ever experienced something

1562
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,000
you couldn't explain almost everybody's

1563
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,480
like yeah they have a story right

1564
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,240
and so we've tried to give a platform

1565
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:52,319
here to just your average joe as it were

1566
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:53,839
to come and sit down and be like here's

1567
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,280
what happened

1568
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,720
and share as much or as little as they'd

1569
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,720
like so in saying that though for

1570
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,400
yourself and the content you put out

1571
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,640
have you had contactees or people reach

1572
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,640
out to you to share and say here's what

1573
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:07,040
i'm thinking here's what happened to me

1574
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:09,040
or has it been just more

1575
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:10,319
i definitely have had that which has

1576
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:12,000
been really interesting because

1577
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,119
sometimes it comes to people who i would

1578
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,440
never expect like for example i have a

1579
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,599
like a family friend you could say who's

1580
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:19,200
like older and like a well-established

1581
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,520
lady like retired kind of like no

1582
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,680
nonsense i never would have expected

1583
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,280
and like even now you know a lot of

1584
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:27,200
people don't really understand like

1585
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:28,960
i think what we

1586
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,880
like that there are ufo developments

1587
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,040
actually occurring you know what i mean

1588
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:34,880
so when i tell people a lot of times

1589
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,280
like what i do i'm kind of just like uh

1590
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:38,800
like i have my normal job but also i do

1591
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:40,160
this and then i kind of have to like

1592
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:42,400
coach it and usually usually people are

1593
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:44,800
nice but sometimes people are like

1594
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:46,160
what the hell are you doing what do you

1595
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,520
mean

1596
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,839
anyways so there's this this one lady

1597
00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:52,160
who's like older well established

1598
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:53,839
retired

1599
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,040
like you no nonsense lady uh i told her

1600
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,200
and like i did the whole coach thing i

1601
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,760
was like well you know making ufo videos

1602
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:02,960
believe it or not it's like kind of in

1603
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,480
the news and she was like oh no like i

1604
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:06,160
believe and i was like oh wait really

1605
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,520
what like okay this is a different

1606
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:09,200
conversation than i thought

1607
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,309
uh

1608
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:16,880
sorry i just got a message

1609
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,240
then she started basically telling me

1610
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,760
that she had had an experience that she

1611
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:21,040
couldn't explain and she never talks

1612
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,839
about it with people because i'll tell

1613
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,240
her she's crazy it happened like in

1614
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:26,720
the 60s or 70s she was driving with her

1615
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:29,599
friend they were like early 20s

1616
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:30,880
and they were driving and it was like

1617
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,520
classic like a light went over their car

1618
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:35,359
they um the

1619
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:38,079
radio acted all weird and then basically

1620
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:39,760
they like woke up like two hours later

1621
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,960
and like didn't remember anything and

1622
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,559
like that was it she doesn't she never

1623
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,160
did any kind of like hypnotic regression

1624
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:46,079
or like any kind of thing like that but

1625
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:48,000
um

1626
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:49,359
yeah that's

1627
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,559
that's one of the ones where it really

1628
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:52,319
hit me i was like wow that's like i

1629
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,280
never would have expected her and like

1630
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,119
like she's such a respectable lady not

1631
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,720
that like non-respectable lady like

1632
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,240
people don't have these experiences or

1633
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:02,000
anything but it was just like you really

1634
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:03,520
never know who's had one of these crazy

1635
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,720
experiences because a lot of times

1636
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,079
people are ashamed like she was like

1637
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,680
yeah i never tell anyone about this and

1638
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:09,119
she was totally serious she wasn't

1639
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:11,040
joking it was kind of crazy like i said

1640
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:12,319
like i did not expect it from this

1641
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,359
person

1642
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:15,200
yeah like daryl in the chat thank you

1643
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,480
for being here with a night brother by

1644
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:18,480
the way it says see she has no reason to

1645
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:19,599
make that up

1646
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,720
agreed

1647
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,680
you know

1648
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,119
you think about too

1649
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,440
going back to even i love that coin

1650
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,040
exchange says tell her your red panda

1651
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:29,359
koala and she and she's blush and ask

1652
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:31,119
you to autograph marshall blush i think

1653
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,640
is what you meant and then or she

1654
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,559
whatever it may be and she'll ask for an

1655
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:36,160
autograph that could be you never know

1656
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:37,119
right

1657
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:38,319
but you think about the people that

1658
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,359
share and this is another important

1659
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:41,359
thing when i think to go back into 2004

1660
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:42,480
and in which you cover in your

1661
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,319
documentaries obviously predating some

1662
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,559
of the history there um

1663
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,640
is that when people brought forth the

1664
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:50,160
story like let's take the case of terry

1665
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:51,280
lovelace i don't know if you are

1666
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:52,880
familiar with his case at all have you

1667
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:54,559
ever heard of it i've i've started

1668
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:57,520
listening to exo academians okay podcast

1669
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:59,119
on it i need to go back and listen to it

1670
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,960
again though because yeah there's so

1671
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,720
many cases i i forget some of the

1672
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:03,839
highlights of that but i do remember

1673
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:04,880
hearing them being like wow i've never

1674
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,839
heard of this case and this is actually

1675
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:06,880
like super

1676
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:08,960
interesting there's some corroborating

1677
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:10,079
because it's like blue but there's also

1678
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:12,160
like corroborating like documentation

1679
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:12,960
right

1680
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:15,920
yeah yet actual um yeah they're partying

1681
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:17,839
hard tonight that they're it's friday

1682
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,800
night you guys be safe out there um

1683
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:23,280
yeah with with terry uh first of all

1684
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,480
he's great guy if you ever reach out to

1685
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:25,920
him i'm sure he'd be more than willing

1686
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:27,599
to you know i know that maybe you don't

1687
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,880
always incorporate that into your

1688
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:30,000
interviews but if you ever wanted to do

1689
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:30,800
a small interview with him and

1690
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,960
incorporate it in your videos or however

1691
00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:35,119
um or even the videos that uh joe and

1692
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,319
ben have done a great interview with

1693
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,559
them i've done an interview with him um

1694
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,839
separate over the different times if you

1695
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:40,800
ever wanted to use any of our video

1696
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,839
clips i'm sure they'd be more than

1697
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,680
willing to to

1698
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:45,200
allow you to use that

1699
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:47,040
um but anyways

1700
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:50,160
yeah he had the the implants uh in his

1701
00:53:54,309 --> 00:53:52,160
leg there was were x-rayed those were

1702
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,319
documented by medical physicians you

1703
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:56,240
know and then the craziest part about

1704
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:57,200
the whole thing is that they end up

1705
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:58,720
disappearing when he was going to get

1706
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:01,520
them removed and actually to be further

1707
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,720
studied

1708
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:04,160
it disappeared

1709
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,400
wow and then what's even crazier about

1710
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,240
it if you want to take the next step is

1711
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:10,640
that he had at the time a fitbit kind of

1712
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,160
d line now this is the new big thing

1713
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:13,920
that's going on right now right there

1714
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:17,040
right he was one of the first ones that

1715
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,880
dealt with it i don't think he's pushing

1716
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:20,319
the agenda but he just so happened he

1717
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:21,760
had his on

1718
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,359
he got taken

1719
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,960
and it showed that he was able to climb

1720
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:26,240
i believe it was

1721
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:28,880
60 a flight of stairs and i think it was

1722
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:31,040
something like 30 seconds something like

1723
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:32,880
that give or take and in his house where

1724
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,200
he lives he lives in a a ranch-style

1725
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,520
house he has one step in his whole house

1726
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:39,760
but he woke up then having a heart

1727
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,720
attack he was a little bit older

1728
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,480
gentlemen at this time gets rushed in

1729
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:44,000
hospital pays the fines you know i

1730
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,040
should say fines but pays all the

1731
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,599
medical bills on that and then ends up

1732
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:49,599
realizing that it's it they activate him

1733
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,880
again and you know these things that

1734
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:52,480
were there are gone now

1735
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:54,000
but it was weird timing that he was

1736
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,359
going to be getting it finally taken

1737
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,200
care of and all of a sudden he has this

1738
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:59,280
event and he even went to the apple

1739
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:01,280
store and had them documented they said

1740
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:02,960
they've never had this happen they

1741
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,240
accuse him

1742
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,920
and a debunker is accusing him to take

1743
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,440
him out on this they said that he flew

1744
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,079
it up on a drone plausible oh my god

1745
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,480
there somebody could do that right yeah

1746
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:14,240
mr terry lovelace doing that at four in

1747
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:15,680
the morning then calling the ambulance

1748
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:16,880
because he's having a heart attack and

1749
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:19,200
paying the medical bills on all that

1750
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:20,720
i don't know man

1751
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,359
he's kind of like a low-key uh

1752
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,960
experience right for you bill he's not

1753
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:26,640
like in every

1754
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:28,799
conference making money

1755
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:30,480
yeah he didn't even come out and really

1756
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,680
tell his story i guess the point when i

1757
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:33,200
was originally made with this whole 2004

1758
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,880
thing was that going coming out back in

1759
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,240
the day like he served in the air force

1760
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:38,160
so coming out in the 70s would have been

1761
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,839
a big deal he would have jeopardized his

1762
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:40,880
career

1763
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:42,160
you know he went into he actually lived

1764
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,599
here in michigan for a while he was in

1765
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:45,920
uh he went into law he was a you know a

1766
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:48,799
lawyer practiced law for years and years

1767
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:50,079
so

1768
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:54,160
for anybody who did come out and speak

1769
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,520
out back in those days there should be

1770
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,280
even more a little more admiration for

1771
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,280
them that's not taking anything away

1772
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,119
from an experience here nowadays i'm not

1773
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,599
guys all i'm saying is there is a little

1774
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,240
more support

1775
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:08,400
that might be in place now currently and

1776
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,720
that's a good thing than what there was

1777
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,319
back then

1778
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:14,240
so i think that again those stories

1779
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:15,520
should not be forgotten and just been

1780
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,359
like yeah they don't matter literally is

1781
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:19,119
what that basically said was like we

1782
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,799
just can't there's too much information

1783
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,079
or yeah

1784
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:24,400
in my opinion too much evidence

1785
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,000
be like we gotta get rid of that we look

1786
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:28,079
too bad if we go the farther back we go

1787
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,119
the worse we look ghost dragons you be

1788
00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:32,720
safe tonight ghost dragon zw's got to

1789
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:34,400
check out for us tonight you have a good

1790
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,559
one be safe

1791
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:38,640
for sure he's always here hanging out

1792
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,640
for us and keeping things safe so

1793
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,200
um really quickly too then before i go

1794
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:45,200
over to share this because i do want to

1795
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:46,799
share that video before anybody else

1796
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,559
might want to leave a ghost dragon cw if

1797
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,400
you're still here i'd love to share this

1798
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,920
and let's get into some idea of like a

1799
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,839
little more woo i guess or the idea of

1800
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:55,680
consciousness or some other things which

1801
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:57,440
is to share this other clip that you

1802
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,240
have um from the the latest episode that

1803
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:01,920
obviously excuse me

1804
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,480
yeah yeah and here we go so we're gonna

1805
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,640
play this here if it pops up for us and

1806
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:08,559
we'll see how it lays out you guys tell

1807
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:10,000
me what you think of this one once

1808
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:11,040
you're here nope i'm gonna make it a big

1809
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:12,640
screen so it'll take us out for just a

1810
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,349
five

1811
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:21,440
four three

1812
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:33,150
i've never felt so close to the place

1813
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:34,480
[Music]

1814
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:35,359
all right we'll give it a second to

1815
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:36,400
place the commercial i don't know if

1816
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:37,599
i'll get in trouble for playing a

1817
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:40,000
commercial or not why would it do that

1818
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:41,760
there wasn't even one in there i liked

1819
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,040
it to make sure

1820
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,880
oh my gosh all right i'm gonna flip over

1821
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,880
there i'll make sure i get rid of it

1822
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:49,040
i guess

1823
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,280
george nori dang it popping in what are

1824
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,200
you doing at our show nice guest

1825
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:55,599
surprise guest i love it all right i'll

1826
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:57,040
see this one gonna let me skip here we

1827
00:58:02,470 --> 00:57:58,000
go

1828
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,480
lunar module was jettisoned and the crew

1829
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:04,480
of apollo 14 began their return trip to

1830
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:05,520
earth

1831
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:06,960
it would take about three days before

1832
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,760
they return back to earth

1833
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:11,359
now that the getting to the moon portion

1834
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:13,280
of the trip was over edgar mitchell felt

1835
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:14,799
like he could really relax and take in

1836
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:17,119
the experience it was on his way back to

1837
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,640
earth that he had an intense personal

1838
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:20,640
experience that would change his life

1839
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:22,079
here he is recounting the profound

1840
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:28,150
and what happened to me

1841
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:34,870
this very exciting and successful voyage

1842
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,359
of exploration

1843
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:39,119
and been the first to explore the

1844
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,160
framara area

1845
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:43,920
but the thing that happened to me as i

1846
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,799
look back on earth and saw it setting

1847
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:51,510
and this bright sky

1848
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:59,270
was a sudden recognition

1849
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,870
that i was a part of all of that

1850
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,750
the joyous recognition

1851
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:10,710
that

1852
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:13,520
the molecules of my body

1853
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,069
everything that existed

1854
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:22,640
was in some sense in communication with

1855
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:26,950
that it was

1856
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:29,440
a holistic picture

1857
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:30,240
that

1858
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:33,200
i could reach out and touch in some

1859
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,559
sense

1860
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:36,960
each and every star and each and every

1861
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:39,359
galaxy

1862
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:42,319
billions and billions and billions of

1863
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:45,119
miles away even billions of light years

1864
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:51,190
and it was a harmonious feeling it was a

1865
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:54,480
feeling the universe is intelligent

1866
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:00,630
and it was the feeling also that our

1867
01:00:05,420 --> 01:00:03,440
scientific descriptions

1868
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,430
are far from complete

1869
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:07,920
[Music]

1870
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:10,240
and that our religious cosmologies are

1871
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,000
descriptions that have come out of our

1872
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,880
religious teachings and our experience

1873
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:16,559
of the

1874
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:20,960
subjective side of ourselves

1875
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:22,960
is also flawed

1876
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,630
that in this magnificent evolving

1877
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:30,640
universe

1878
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:34,000
we're still a ways from the answers

1879
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:37,119
as to who and what we are

1880
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:39,760
and how we got here

1881
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:42,170
and where we're going

1882
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:44,079
[Music]

1883
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:45,359
the feeling

1884
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:48,400
that the universe is intelligent in some

1885
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:50,880
sense there's purpose in it

1886
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,760
and that we're not alone

1887
01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:55,359
these were all the feelings that i

1888
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:57,200
experienced

1889
01:01:03,190 --> 01:00:58,880
is that i watched this magnificent

1890
01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:05,670
which is pretty amazing like i think

1891
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:07,599
just that quote alone is like i was

1892
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,880
listening to that part today like being

1893
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,040
able to really take it in and i was like

1894
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,119
bro this is pretty profound like

1895
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:15,200
that's something like stuff that i feel

1896
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:17,359
like work there's just only a couple

1897
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:18,720
channels and people that are floating

1898
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:21,920
into that idea no pun intended of um

1899
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,000
getting into

1900
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:26,559
the idea of consciousness and all this

1901
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:28,160
quantum entanglement that wasn't even

1902
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,200
stuff that i don't even know if we

1903
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:31,200
actually we had not it was hypothesized

1904
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:33,040
but i don't think we'd actually

1905
01:01:36,789 --> 01:01:34,799
proven it yet it was only theoretical at

1906
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:36,799
the time right i mean he's basically

1907
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:39,520
hitting on quantum entanglement

1908
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:40,480
and

1909
01:01:44,309 --> 01:01:42,319
in a sense but

1910
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:44,319
yeah i just again great work yeah

1911
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:46,000
perhaps yeah also some people which i

1912
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:47,440
was saying was uh it kind of sounds like

1913
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,040
he had like a psychedelic experience so

1914
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:51,040
maybe it was just so profound like his

1915
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,920
neurons were just firing everywhere away

1916
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:56,160
but that did inspire him to like

1917
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:57,760
go dive into like all these other

1918
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:00,240
subjects more so you know that one

1919
01:02:05,029 --> 01:02:02,240
wasn't necessarily a ufo experience per

1920
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:05,039
se although uh ross coldheart in his

1921
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:06,880
book says which i didn't include because

1922
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:09,039
it was already so long there's like

1923
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,400
that easily could have been like two and

1924
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:12,240
a half hours

1925
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:14,079
um but he said that

1926
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,599
some that edgar mitchell told his

1927
01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:17,039
contact that

1928
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:20,000
they did see ufo orbs during the apollo

1929
01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:21,920
flights but i kind of find that hard to

1930
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:24,160
believe to be honest because um edgar

1931
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:26,240
mitchell was so open to talk about like

1932
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:28,400
so much stuff that's like crazier than

1933
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:31,039
seeing an orb but who knows maybe maybe

1934
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:33,599
they did maybe they did on apollo 14.

1935
01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:35,440
you never know i mean but like you said

1936
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:38,240
it really drove him down the the path of

1937
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,920
coming back and i mean we didn't even

1938
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,200
again guys you should go watch this i

1939
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:43,119
don't give everything away but go

1940
01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:45,440
subscribe go check out the channel um

1941
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,440
and you can watch it in its entirety but

1942
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:49,839
he when he hit on the idea that it was

1943
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:51,520
uh let's see it was prior to this i

1944
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,880
think he'd already done it

1945
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:54,240
he had already done the test where he

1946
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:56,720
had four individuals back on earth that

1947
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:58,160
he basically had these sequential

1948
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:59,200
numbers that he would go through every

1949
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,119
day of shapes and stuff and he'd pick

1950
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,599
his pattern and then see what they got

1951
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:05,680
now i know that you said in there

1952
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:06,960
i believe the reference you made was

1953
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:08,319
something along the lines of like it was

1954
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:10,000
very controversial

1955
01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:13,200
the or not controversial but the

1956
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:15,119
statistics from that were not yeah the

1957
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:17,200
results were great yeah they were kind

1958
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:19,440
of inconclusive on it but it seemed to

1959
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:21,680
be something he continued to pursue once

1960
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:23,119
he came back down because what was the

1961
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,960
name of that little retreat they went to

1962
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:26,640
and actually retreat necessarily but

1963
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:28,799
that yeah that place was interesting too

1964
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:30,960
so and then real quick those um

1965
01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:33,359
those symbols are zener cards which are

1966
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:35,039
oh look at hunter gave her the thing i

1967
01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:36,160
know that guys

1968
01:03:39,589 --> 01:03:38,559
after that amazing super chat

1969
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:39,599
um

1970
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:41,680
zener cards were those symbols and kind

1971
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:42,640
of touching back to what i was saying

1972
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:44,160
about the history of viewing and stuff

1973
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:45,680
edgar mitchell had been into this guy

1974
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,520
called jb ryan at duke university who

1975
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,760
kind of like made the zener card symbols

1976
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:51,599
and it's those are kind of standard

1977
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:52,799
symbols that they use in any kind of

1978
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:54,400
like remote viewing test or whatever i

1979
01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:55,599
think they use them in stranger things

1980
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:57,119
even they were using them during the

1981
01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:59,200
yuri geller days in my video about nina

1982
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:01,680
kulagana the soviet basically version of

1983
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:03,440
yuri geller they used those symbols for

1984
01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:05,440
whatever reason

1985
01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:08,400
and um yeah he was just trying to

1986
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:09,440
like

1987
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,599
do that while in space

1988
01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:13,839
and he did oh so then he came back down

1989
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:14,720
and then yeah that was another

1990
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:16,400
interesting part of history is the eslan

1991
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:18,240
institute which was

1992
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:20,079
basically for people who don't know and

1993
01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:21,839
i'm still kind of learning about it it's

1994
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:23,280
this like

1995
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:26,000
basically like hippie retreat in the bay

1996
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:26,880
era

1997
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:28,400
area where they do selects and they

1998
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:30,079
would do um

1999
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,440
yoga and stuff like that but it was

2000
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,200
accused of being kind of like maybe cia

2001
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:34,960
funded or maybe even like

2002
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:37,200
that's when you go do channeling stuff

2003
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:39,119
i'm pretty sure in the in the show

2004
01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:41,440
stranger things like 11's mom or

2005
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:43,839
whatever is like a salon girl

2006
01:04:47,109 --> 01:04:45,520
um

2007
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:47,119
so and then when he went there is kind

2008
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,599
of when he decided to make his own uh

2009
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:51,599
islam model which was the institute of

2010
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:53,119
pneumatic sciences which still is around

2011
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,880
today and even salon is still around

2012
01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:55,839
today

2013
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:56,960
if you uh

2014
01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:58,319
if you hear have you ever heard alex

2015
01:05:02,230 --> 01:05:00,880
jones like talk about how like big tech

2016
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,240
um

2017
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:04,160
uh ceos and stuff are going away to

2018
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:06,079
retreats and like doing hallucinogens

2019
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:07,680
and stuff like that salon is like one of

2020
01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:09,520
those places so it's pretty

2021
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:11,039
pretty sus

2022
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:13,200
it's very sus and i will take a sip of

2023
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:14,559
that one and for anybody who's in here

2024
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:16,240
tonight thank you so much for all the

2025
01:05:20,549 --> 01:05:17,200
amazing super chats that have been

2026
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:20,559
coming in uh man meet oh man am i saying

2027
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:21,520
it wrong

2028
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:26,000
thank you so much for that amazing super

2029
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:27,680
chat

2030
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:29,680
i know go ahead you guys say

2031
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:31,440
yeah they're great guys man me and

2032
01:05:34,870 --> 01:05:33,520
hunter and hoco

2033
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:34,880
there you go thank you so much for this

2034
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,440
amazing super chats uh you know there's

2035
01:05:42,309 --> 01:05:39,760
got to be something to this too oh thank

2036
01:05:43,829 --> 01:05:42,319
you so much for that um

2037
01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:43,839
yeah ben and joe do great work and they

2038
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:45,039
they gave us a platform to be able to

2039
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:46,559
help out a little bit so i appreciate it

2040
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:47,680
so much

2041
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:51,119
but jim gonna oh my gosh jim jim goodall

2042
01:05:56,549 --> 01:05:54,400
this is jim goodall here the sr-71 there

2043
01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:56,559
i was on the fence line

2044
01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:58,079
guys jim goodall if you haven't looked

2045
01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:59,599
him up you should look up that one too

2046
01:06:02,069 --> 01:06:00,559
that might be a problem to do a

2047
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,079
documentary on

2048
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:04,720
he was he did some of the pretty amazing

2049
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:06,160
groundbreaking work back in the day and

2050
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:07,520
bringing a lot he's one of those people

2051
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:09,280
that were basically doing what you and i

2052
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:11,119
are doing now but before you had the

2053
01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,640
ability to just look everything up you

2054
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:14,640
had to actually go and risk being in

2055
01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:17,200
person yeah we're so lucky

2056
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:19,440
yeah cause he's got some stories but he

2057
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,799
knew his rights and like he said when

2058
01:06:23,430 --> 01:06:22,400
you know your rights as a us citizen or

2059
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:23,440
wherever you're from whatever your

2060
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:24,880
rights are

2061
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:26,880
you're able to do a little more than you

2062
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:29,119
have been taught sometimes and and he

2063
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:33,119
he's done amazing work yeah

2064
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:34,160
he should check it out there's a lot of

2065
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,240
aviation

2066
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:38,079
true that's the thing that oh i think

2067
01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:40,079
your um your mic went out for a second

2068
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,000
there i don't know if it muted is that

2069
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:44,400
good there you go now you're back okay

2070
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:46,240
sorry that's okay sometime i know they

2071
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:48,000
go out or they put time out or whatever

2072
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:51,280
but yeah he's done a lot of uh i jim you

2073
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:53,039
have to forgive me i think i'm off top

2074
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:55,119
my head is it 26 books something like

2075
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:56,240
that

2076
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:58,000
uh let's see if he said i started doing

2077
01:07:02,950 --> 01:06:59,760
this 50 years ago

2078
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:02,960
50 excuse me 50 years ago before the

2079
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:04,880
internet that's right jim you did and we

2080
01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:07,039
we truly do appreciate

2081
01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:08,640
both the work you did and your humor

2082
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:10,880
which are both uh legendary in their own

2083
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:13,119
right for sure 29 books he's up to now

2084
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:14,960
that he's wow that's crazy

2085
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:15,920
yeah

2086
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:17,680
thank you very much

2087
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:19,280
oh you know what happened red panda real

2088
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,559
quick i think if you go to the bottom

2089
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:22,400
where it says cam and white settings i

2090
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:23,760
think it might have switched you over to

2091
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:25,280
like your uh

2092
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:27,200
no no worries at all but i think

2093
01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:29,039
switching over to the like the

2094
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:30,720
microphone from the computer there

2095
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:32,000
versus the one that you have in front of

2096
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:33,200
you

2097
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:37,440
thing again as we've been heading out a

2098
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:39,920
little bit tonight is that

2099
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:42,880
you have these instances where

2100
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:45,039
yes they're bringing forth disclosure

2101
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:46,400
and for those that are listening in

2102
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:47,920
audio format i am putting master

2103
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:50,640
quotation marks on that i am excited for

2104
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:52,160
what is coming forward

2105
01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:55,119
but i am nervous about uh

2106
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:56,559
those that have been eliminated over

2107
01:07:59,589 --> 01:07:57,920
time with it

2108
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,599
we'll try that out for you there red can

2109
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:01,520
you hear me now oh there you go yeah

2110
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:04,240
you're much better okay yeah perfect

2111
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:05,839
yeah jim goodall looks very interesting

2112
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:07,760
uh i'm gonna have to check out some of

2113
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,480
his stuff is he a ufo uh

2114
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:12,880
like nerd too like us or does he think

2115
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:14,480
it's i suppose he'd call himself a nerd

2116
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:15,520
i don't know if he calls up under who

2117
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:18,239
knows right but he for sure is into his

2118
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:19,759
thing that he's done with the work that

2119
01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:21,440
him and michael stratt have done michael

2120
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:23,199
stratus is not when you could look up

2121
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:26,319
involved in avionics was they eliminated

2122
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:29,839
so much of what was genuinely just

2123
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:31,920
aerodynamics or aerocraft that was

2124
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:34,080
aerospacecraft that was being worked on

2125
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,120
that was not known about yet it was just

2126
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:39,359
you know like uh kind of black budget

2127
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:42,080
deals that were going on and so like

2128
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,359
jim you have to forgive me i know the

2129
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:45,120
sr-71 was one of the first big ones that

2130
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:46,560
you've seen before anybody else knew

2131
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,920
about it you wrote about it in your book

2132
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:49,359
before it even been admitted that the

2133
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:51,120
government said yeah we have that i

2134
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,679
believe the f-17 some other ones

2135
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:55,440
you know it's the idea that like so i

2136
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:56,480
can't remember what's on my head i don't

2137
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:58,400
think they admitted the f-17 or the f-16

2138
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:59,839
one of the two they didn't even admit

2139
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:01,120
that that was in existence or really

2140
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:02,480
working until i think it was the late

2141
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,159
80s somewhere in their mid to late 80s

2142
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:06,239
right top gun like idea but they were

2143
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:08,159
using those in vietnam

2144
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:09,679
so the idea being that if somebody had

2145
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:11,600
seen that where

2146
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,120
in vietnam we weren't too far out from

2147
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,520
using some of the other work that

2148
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:17,520
was not that far removed from prop you

2149
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:20,880
know like you know basically up to 47 we

2150
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:23,440
were using propellers system right to

2151
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:25,440
fly a plane the the jets and the engine

2152
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:28,560
that wasn't there yet um and so anyways

2153
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,759
he's done a lot of work over the years

2154
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,279
on that he also knew i forgot about this

2155
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:32,880
i forgot about this he knew bob lazar

2156
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:35,440
before he went to work at s4 so he is

2157
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:36,319
one of those guys who's kind of

2158
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:38,000
confirmed bob lazar's story oh he's a

2159
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:44,630
definitely let me know i don't know i

2160
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,000
think he's

2161
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:48,400
you know i have to say jim i could be

2162
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:49,920
wrong but i think jim said that he had

2163
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,440
one time

2164
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:53,759
that he walked in somewhere i can't

2165
01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:55,120
remember where the office was and he was

2166
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,199
showing a paperwork trying to say hey i

2167
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:59,360
know this guy worked here went to school

2168
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:00,960
here something along those lines and

2169
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:02,080
they said something along the lines if

2170
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:03,920
he's never existed they got rid of his

2171
01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:05,199
like social security number bunch of

2172
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:07,120
stuff started disappearing

2173
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:08,239
so

2174
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:09,520
depending where you fall in the bottom

2175
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:10,880
lazar debate and people go back and

2176
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:12,640
forth on it he's one of those ones that

2177
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,080
you could say

2178
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:15,760
kind of helped cooperate some of bob's

2179
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,480
at least initial story of that yes he

2180
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:20,000
was there because there's people that go

2181
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:21,600
as far as to say he was never even out

2182
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,159
there he you know he

2183
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,640
you know it is what it is i guess so

2184
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,040
he doesn't exist today and it's all yes

2185
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:30,960
you know he lived not too far from me

2186
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:32,880
for a while oh right here in michigan

2187
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:35,280
yeah he was when he was making fireworks

2188
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:36,480
remember he had that little shop before

2189
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:37,760
they raided it do you remember that it

2190
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:39,360
shut him down

2191
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:40,880
this was like

2192
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,040
american he was here or something what's

2193
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:45,600
it uh it was to say it was on netflix i

2194
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,239
can't remember the name of the

2195
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:48,159
documentary okay so that was what they

2196
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,400
did yeah yeah that was great that's not

2197
01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:52,640
too far from work did you ever go

2198
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:54,159
no because i didn't know it was that

2199
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:56,159
close that's a bird it was like when i

2200
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:57,600
was just starting to get into this stuff

2201
01:11:01,990 --> 01:10:59,679
and i was like wait a second

2202
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:02,000
yeah oh i would have been that's a burn

2203
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,080
dude imagine that

2204
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:05,840
yeah it says uh it was a two-star

2205
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:08,000
admiral that put bob's w-2 into the

2206
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:10,080
shredder thank you that's what it was so

2207
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:11,520
he essentially

2208
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:12,640
took

2209
01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:14,800
bob's w-2s

2210
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:16,400
and was like

2211
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,080
and shredded them up

2212
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:20,159
so i mean like i said you're going to

2213
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:22,159
check out some interviews

2214
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:24,239
it's a good time

2215
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:26,000
but going back to to the work that you

2216
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,000
do that way uh

2217
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:30,080
you know what do you have one i mean i

2218
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:31,440
suppose that your work as a whole as you

2219
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,719
continue on is something you really

2220
01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:34,800
enjoy but do you have a favorite do you

2221
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:36,159
have one that's kind of like that's my

2222
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:38,560
baby you know

2223
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:41,120
or is it the one

2224
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:43,040
i would say maybe the work is whole but

2225
01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:44,239
there's some where it does feel more

2226
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:46,159
like my baby i would say the ones where

2227
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:48,080
it feels like sometimes it feels like

2228
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:49,040
i'm trying to reach the middle ground

2229
01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:51,040
like making a documentary and like also

2230
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:53,199
maybe kind of like making it a movie and

2231
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:55,199
try and hit like beats that a movie

2232
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:56,080
would

2233
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,920
those are a little more exciting it's

2234
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,360
like that of your mitchell one i feel

2235
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:01,440
like i kind of tried to do it like that

2236
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,520
and then my nino kulagana one i feel

2237
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:05,360
like was kind of like that

2238
01:12:07,910 --> 01:12:07,120
that was a good one that was another one

2239
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:07,920
i was actually gonna break when you

2240
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:08,800
mentioned her i was like oh yeah you

2241
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:10,880
totally did a documentary on her as well

2242
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:13,199
i believe you also did a documentary did

2243
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:14,800
you do one solely on warner von braun

2244
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:16,880
was that what you were doing no no no no

2245
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:18,800
there was just there's just basically a

2246
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:20,480
word of one documentary in the edgar

2247
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:21,600
mitchell one

2248
01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:22,960
correct

2249
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:25,120
yeah i think it was interesting too i

2250
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:26,159
probably would one day i feel like

2251
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:27,360
eventually more stuff is going to come

2252
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:28,880
out about him because

2253
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,840
that was kind of one of the biggest

2254
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,760
revelations for me um when i was making

2255
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:33,679
the edgar mitchell one was that he had

2256
01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:34,880
been on the record saying that like

2257
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,640
werner von braun and told him about

2258
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:38,320
roswell that he had been

2259
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:39,920
that a bunch of the paper clip people

2260
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:41,199
had been there because i had already

2261
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:43,120
been an edgar mitchell nerd for like a

2262
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,560
while by that point

2263
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:46,560
and they just randomly came across that

2264
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,080
in one of the like thousands of

2265
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:50,320
interviews this guy gave and you don't

2266
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:51,360
really hear people talk about that much

2267
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:52,640
maybe because people just dismiss what

2268
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:54,640
edgar mitchell says

2269
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:56,400
generally because he can be kind of

2270
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:57,760
eccentric is the word i think we're

2271
01:13:02,149 --> 01:13:00,080
going to go with yeah but uh

2272
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:02,159
i think we're nervous definitely think

2273
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:03,760
about his experiences look at the

2274
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,840
instance particular with oh man i can't

2275
01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:07,679
remember the name like we'll call him a

2276
01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:09,920
guru but the the gentleman he took his

2277
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:12,400
mom to his mom had the severe issues

2278
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,640
with her yeah that's where she could

2279
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:16,560
what was his name his name was norbu

2280
01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:17,600
chen

2281
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,560
okay

2282
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:20,480
so he gets he brings his mom out there

2283
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,679
right he doesn't tell his mom what's

2284
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:23,120
going on because his mom was devoutly

2285
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:24,640
christian right she was very much so

2286
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:25,920
like i you know i don't want anything to

2287
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:27,280
do with anything else

2288
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,719
and they go to this process this healing

2289
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,800
uh ceremony as you call it and told her

2290
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,400
to go to bed and pretend that you've had

2291
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:36,320
imagine essentially that you've had the

2292
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:37,360
surgery

2293
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:40,080
she wakes up and she can see i mean to

2294
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:42,000
the point where she drove home at night

2295
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:43,360
in the dark if i if i do recall

2296
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,040
correctly at least drove her

2297
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:47,280
without her glasses right and i think

2298
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:48,640
this went on for either a couple days or

2299
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:50,719
a week right like

2300
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:51,920
was it a week

2301
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:53,520
now that's the fascinating so go ahead

2302
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:55,199
and continue the story out there so he

2303
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:56,320
if you want to tell a little better than

2304
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:59,199
i do obviously so okay so

2305
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:00,800
so edgar mitchell was basically like

2306
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,560
straight and arrow

2307
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,880
uh aviation guy

2308
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,480
and then he had these pockets of like

2309
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:08,640
being interested in paranormal stuff and

2310
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:10,480
like i was talking about earlier jb ryan

2311
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:11,920
which was basically like

2312
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,520
before removing had the official title

2313
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:15,440
over my viewing he was looking into that

2314
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:16,719
which is what me and bigley were talking

2315
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,840
about

2316
01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:19,679
son he comes home

2317
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:21,600
after apollo after that experience that

2318
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,080
we all listen to together and he first

2319
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,400
thing that happens is people tell him

2320
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:28,800
that in his hometown of roswell um

2321
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:31,040
oh yes please go get a beer and then in

2322
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:33,120
his hometown of roswell he uh people

2323
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:34,320
start coming up and telling him that

2324
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:36,000
like oh they had seen they'd been

2325
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:37,840
involved in one way or another with some

2326
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,400
aspect of the recovery of the

2327
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:42,960
crashed ufo and like the cover-up so he

2328
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:44,000
was already kind of like whoa that's

2329
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:46,320
kind of weird and then this incident

2330
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:48,640
with norbuchen happens in which

2331
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:50,239
he basically like meets this guy who

2332
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:52,159
claims to be a healer and then the guy

2333
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:54,159
allegedly heals his mom

2334
01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:57,040
for about a week and then the mom says

2335
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:58,719
like the mom checks to see if norby was

2336
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,400
a christian and he wasn't and then she

2337
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:02,719
loses whatever ability she felt like she

2338
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:05,120
had so she went from being able to

2339
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:06,800
uh only see with like really thick

2340
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:09,040
glasses to a week of not of seeing

2341
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,640
regularly and then

2342
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:12,080
um

2343
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:13,280
she needed him again after and remember

2344
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:14,640
this is all according to edgar and i say

2345
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:15,920
in the documentary this is all queen and

2346
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:17,760
edgar i don't even know like what to

2347
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:19,199
make of it myself

2348
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,880
this is what he claims and he says

2349
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:22,960
himself that like this is if you didn't

2350
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:24,400
experience it he would understand why

2351
01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:27,040
like you don't you wouldn't believe him

2352
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:29,679
right and then and then

2353
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,040
that kind of that's how he kind of got

2354
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:33,760
into the whole like yuri geller and

2355
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:35,840
and um

2356
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:38,000
sri stuff was like his experience with

2357
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:39,840
norbu and then he basically just came to

2358
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:42,320
the belief of like there's people like

2359
01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:43,679
that he thinks allegedly have these

2360
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:45,199
abilities which would be like naruchan

2361
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,960
yuri geller and nine kulagana type

2362
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:48,400
people

2363
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:49,600
very true

2364
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:51,120
so let's see

2365
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:52,640
really quick though here at the bottom

2366
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:54,239
of the hour i i completely forgot we

2367
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:55,679
normally take a break at the top of the

2368
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:56,560
hour because then so we'll have to use

2369
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:57,600
the bathroom so i don't know if you have

2370
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,719
to go to the bathroom or not really i'm

2371
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:00,719
good i'm good you're okay um so i have

2372
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:02,480
to go i'll say i'll be right back so i

2373
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:03,920
kind of keep it going if you just want

2374
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:05,120
to talk to everybody for just a minute

2375
01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:06,480
or i can put up some music it's totally

2376
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:08,320
up to you uh i'll just talk to the chat

2377
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:09,679
yeah let's do it yeah yeah no problem so

2378
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:11,840
i'll be right back and uh go ahead and

2379
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,360
let them know i'm gonna drop the once

2380
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:15,679
again in the show notes here oops here

2381
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:16,800
we go

2382
01:16:19,990 --> 01:16:18,159
across the spectrum that way anybody can

2383
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:20,000
follow you wherever they'd like pop this

2384
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:21,920
back up here again uh that way if you

2385
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:23,360
guys can please go subscribe to him that

2386
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:25,440
would be uh very helpful i think not

2387
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:27,040
only for just obviously your channel but

2388
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,600
obviously as a whole guys as a community

2389
01:16:33,110 --> 01:16:31,120
i think it's great the work you're doing

2390
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:33,120
and i think that the more we can help

2391
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:34,719
educate one another because we're not

2392
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:36,719
going to be experts uh

2393
01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:38,800
all of us until we can reach a jim

2394
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:40,880
goodall status then maybe we can we can

2395
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:43,040
strive to be jim goodall but uh he looks

2396
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,360
like an expert in aviation like oh he's

2397
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,000
his he's he's got some crazy stories

2398
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:50,159
he's here so guys i will be right back

2399
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,920
in just a minute so red panda or red you

2400
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:53,280
handle them for you i trust you and

2401
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:54,480
you're awesome i'll just be here

2402
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:00,390
subbed and dubbed

2403
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:13,590
doctor scientist

2404
01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:14,640
uh

2405
01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:20,239
type if you believe bob lazar or not

2406
01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:46,870
yes bob lazar bob lazar nope sorry yeah

2407
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:48,159
i'm still on the fence with bubbles our

2408
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,760
eyes uh it'd be interesting to talk to

2409
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:51,040
that uh gym

2410
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:52,960
guy because he seems like he'd have some

2411
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,590
believe he was pimping since been

2412
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:01,920
pimping

2413
01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:09,110
next video hopefully within a week and a

2414
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:19,189
[Music]

2415
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:20,709
okay how about this do you guys think

2416
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:22,480
lulu elizondo has

2417
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:24,159
like the best intentions at heart or do

2418
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:26,080
you think there's some kind of nefarious

2419
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:41,510
already and i am back

2420
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:44,000
maybe just in time too it looks like red

2421
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:45,920
red might have we said the gremlins are

2422
01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:48,239
after him a little bit tonight we'll see

2423
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:49,760
told him if he got kicked he would just

2424
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:52,560
have to hop on them back in

2425
01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:54,880
there he is and he he's back here we go

2426
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:56,159
oh we gotta get rid of this one hang on

2427
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:58,080
there we go sorry right at the end there

2428
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:01,040
but for the most part it was all good

2429
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:02,719
there you go

2430
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:04,480
uh yeah so i don't interrupt to say if

2431
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:05,760
you were sharing anything to anybody in

2432
01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:07,040
the chat there anything that anybody was

2433
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:08,560
asking you feel free to answer those

2434
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:10,159
questions that i just do have lined up

2435
01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:12,320
for the future so yeah i have the

2436
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:14,480
uh news recap for which like i said will

2437
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:16,800
go from the basically the

2438
01:19:21,910 --> 01:19:18,800
preliminary report

2439
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,920
um jilla brand amendment aoi

2440
01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:23,120
some of the stuff that's going on around

2441
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:25,760
the world with like icer in the u.n and

2442
01:19:29,510 --> 01:19:27,760
china and then some of the ways like the

2443
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:29,520
uk and australia have kind of not been

2444
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:31,520
engaging in this subject and then after

2445
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:33,280
that i have a video planned well after

2446
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,640
that i think is when i'm gonna start

2447
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:36,640
doing interviews too so i have like some

2448
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:39,120
people that i kind of like

2449
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:41,120
maybe want to interview or not i need a

2450
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:43,280
practice like with um stream yards and

2451
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:45,280
stuff like that but in terms of

2452
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:46,960
documentaries after that i want to do a

2453
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:48,159
video

2454
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:49,199
where like throughout the course of my

2455
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:51,040
research i've come across

2456
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:52,719
hmm sorry i just love valiant

2457
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:56,159
valentine's so long it's like a thor

2458
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:58,239
i love it um but to the person in the

2459
01:20:00,709 --> 01:19:59,520
chat uh

2460
01:20:02,070 --> 01:20:00,719
basically

2461
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:02,080
throughout the course of my videos i

2462
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:03,360
come across different aspects where it's

2463
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:05,280
like you could really see the hand of

2464
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,199
the government like either censoring or

2465
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:09,440
like trying to manipulate the narrative

2466
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:11,199
regarding the subject and they all kind

2467
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,880
of are in their own different areas so

2468
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:14,159
i'm gonna just do a video where like all

2469
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:15,920
those are in kind of like it's actually

2470
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:16,960
probably gonna be the first part in a

2471
01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:19,120
series but just to kind of see like the

2472
01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:20,639
historical way in which the government

2473
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:22,639
really like had their hand on this issue

2474
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:25,440
and the narrative and different ways so

2475
01:20:28,149 --> 01:20:26,639
that i think that would be interesting

2476
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:28,159
for people to see because like it kind

2477
01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:29,440
of ties back into what we're talking

2478
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,880
about earlier it's like people don't

2479
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,480
have this historical knowledge like they

2480
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:34,800
think the galileo project is like

2481
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:36,239
the first time to ever

2482
01:20:41,510 --> 01:20:39,280
have this be tried and it's like no the

2483
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:41,520
the powers that be were really crushing

2484
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:43,120
the subject down and anyone who tried to

2485
01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:44,800
work on it look at the work jacques

2486
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:46,639
valet did over the years i mean you talk

2487
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:48,320
about a guy who

2488
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:50,480
really truly applied himself and still

2489
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:51,920
to this day is very well respected

2490
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:53,120
within the community obviously and i

2491
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:54,159
think he's gained a lot more respect

2492
01:20:58,070 --> 01:20:56,080
from his peers over time

2493
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:58,080
but i mean there was someone who took it

2494
01:21:02,229 --> 01:21:00,400
very seriously had all the credentials

2495
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,239
as well as even jaylen heineck sure he

2496
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,320
was brought in at first to be which i

2497
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:05,600
almost ended up appreciating they

2498
01:21:09,350 --> 01:21:07,600
brought him in to be the skeptical

2499
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:09,360
mouth pieces were to be like come up

2500
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,719
with a good story figure out a way to

2501
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:12,320
cover this up and initially he didn't

2502
01:21:14,950 --> 01:21:13,199
think it was gonna be a big deal because

2503
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:14,960
he was like well it's explainable right

2504
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:16,080
everything has a scientific you know

2505
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:17,440
scientific answer at least an answer

2506
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:18,800
that we just

2507
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,320
maybe don't have an answer to just yet

2508
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:22,400
but there's a good reason for it and it

2509
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:23,840
wasn't until you started having those in

2510
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:25,280
the field encounters and talking to

2511
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:26,880
people like we get to do now or we get

2512
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:29,040
to have you start having multiple

2513
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:30,400
experiences and now everybody blames it

2514
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:32,159
on saying well the internet and

2515
01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:33,520
we're just copying and pasting each

2516
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:35,199
other's stories but back then they

2517
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:36,880
didn't have that we're talking about him

2518
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:38,159
going into some of these these little

2519
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:39,600
towns that like people didn't leave this

2520
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:40,840
town you

2521
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,600
know all you have is what the major

2522
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,120
newspapers were telling you and that's

2523
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:47,520
it and again time and space of when

2524
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,440
we're telling the story in that day and

2525
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,960
age it was not cool to come out it

2526
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:52,159
wasn't going to help your youtube

2527
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:53,840
channel grow to come out and you know

2528
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:55,760
and say i've got this experience we're

2529
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:58,159
talking about loss of jobs being run out

2530
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:59,679
of town

2531
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:01,040
and we're talking about that going on

2532
01:22:05,669 --> 01:22:03,280
even up into the 80s guys

2533
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:05,679
so yeah i i i know i'm preaching the

2534
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:07,280
choir over here everybody here knows

2535
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,320
this stuff i mean i feel like it still

2536
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:10,400
kind of goes on to a degree probably

2537
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:12,880
even now i mean now probably less but

2538
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:14,000
like even

2539
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:16,800
before 20 like 2010 to 2017 there is

2540
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:18,639
still

2541
01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:21,520
yeah very big stigma and whatnot

2542
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:23,679
oh my gosh obi says i need a pit

2543
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:25,360
[\h__\h] i'm going to get i was got i

2544
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:26,800
got one i was looking at i was going to

2545
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:28,400
get the uh it's like it bends with your

2546
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,600
head and stuff i'm going to but i'll

2547
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:31,199
look that up what is it a pit bull i'll

2548
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:32,400
write that down

2549
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:34,560
head shaver says it'll change my life oh

2550
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:35,920
my god

2551
01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:37,440
john music thank you for being here

2552
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:39,040
tonight brother good to see you what's

2553
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:40,159
up john music

2554
01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:42,080
i like watching him when he's on he's

2555
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:44,400
not knowledgeable guy too

2556
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:46,239
yeah he has great questions and he's got

2557
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:48,000
a lot of going on or what that he's

2558
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:49,440
doing with that what's the schedule for

2559
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:52,480
tonight while we were in the last uh 23

2560
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:53,679
minutes of the show here because i

2561
01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:55,600
usually i don't like to over overlap

2562
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:57,840
excuse me mr dave scott and his show

2563
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:59,440
over there so usually we have about 23

2564
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:00,880
minutes left here

2565
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:03,199
uh arden paranormal hey good to see you

2566
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:04,719
thank you for being here tonight as well

2567
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,360
bim jim excuse me

2568
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:09,360
oh my goodness uh

2569
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:12,159
said see old videos of lazar

2570
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:13,440
you know some of those are pretty

2571
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,840
intriguing and again i know that like

2572
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:17,760
you know uh jim goodall here obviously

2573
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:19,679
in the chat saying tonight i go way up

2574
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,120
here i did see when i was first coming

2575
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:23,440
back um let me recapsulate it really

2576
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:25,600
quickly if i can for you guys

2577
01:23:30,070 --> 01:23:27,520
i believe he said bob lazar didn't

2578
01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:30,080
believe in ufos when i met him that was

2579
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:32,960
just before he went to work at s4

2580
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,040
uh he told me that even if you put a gun

2581
01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:36,719
to his head he would still not believe

2582
01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:38,719
in ufos and i think the reason i

2583
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:39,920
obviously could tell a story better but

2584
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:40,960
i think they met by like kind of a

2585
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:42,960
chance of reasoning it was like he

2586
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:44,480
needed to get something copied like a

2587
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:45,760
piece of paper and not everybody had a

2588
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:48,239
copy or something along those lines oh

2589
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:50,159
well and the guy that jim was with was

2590
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:51,840
like well i know a guy and it happened

2591
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:54,719
to be bob lazar

2592
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:56,320
he was kind of a chance encounter at the

2593
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:57,199
time

2594
01:24:01,110 --> 01:23:59,199
like he said michael stratt has

2595
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:01,120
a new book on ufo events for the last

2596
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:03,280
100 years or something like that it

2597
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:04,960
should be ready for general public soon

2598
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:07,120
see that'd be awesome i love stuff that

2599
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:08,480
does that i love stuff that lays out and

2600
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:09,520
i get that it's not everybody's bread

2601
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:10,800
and butter

2602
01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:12,880
but it's cool to have that

2603
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,159
um

2604
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,080
timeline to kind of look and reflect and

2605
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:17,920
not only see how it's evolving because

2606
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:20,080
we have to admit the phenomenon has

2607
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:23,440
evolved right oh my gosh you guys

2608
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:25,199
there's been a chad smith podcast

2609
01:24:29,430 --> 01:24:26,320
sighting

2610
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:29,440
the man the myth the legend chad smith

2611
01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:31,199
in the house tonight aren't you doing a

2612
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:32,719
show right now brother you might be

2613
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:34,719
watching us and doing a show too

2614
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:37,679
very talented that one very talented

2615
01:24:42,149 --> 01:24:40,639
but uh really quick i wanted to ask you

2616
01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:42,159
before uh because like i said i know we

2617
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:43,760
only have about 25 more minutes or so

2618
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:46,000
with you here tonight i wanted to ask

2619
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,040
you

2620
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:49,840
the idea of

2621
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:51,040
some of the things that are going on

2622
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:53,280
with the galileo project

2623
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:56,000
what does disclosure in a sense mean to

2624
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:57,120
you because i know what's different for

2625
01:25:02,790 --> 01:24:59,920
everybody so no necessarily pc answer

2626
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:02,800
here what does disclosure to red mean

2627
01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:03,840
to me

2628
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:09,270
like the average person accepts that

2629
01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:10,719
there's something

2630
01:25:13,669 --> 01:25:11,760
like

2631
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:13,679
thanks champ uh except that there's

2632
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:15,120
something um

2633
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:17,520
like non-human i mean it could still end

2634
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:19,120
up being cuban but i'm pretty much

2635
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:20,560
leaning towards non-human when the

2636
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,080
average person like really thinks about

2637
01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:24,400
it and not just that they understand

2638
01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:26,719
that it's here but i think a big part of

2639
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:28,400
it is understanding that there was an

2640
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:29,679
active

2641
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:32,080
like censorship campaign gaslighting

2642
01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:33,120
campaign

2643
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:34,880
i think that part of that understanding

2644
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:36,800
needs to be hand in hand with it and i

2645
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:37,679
think once like everyone kind of

2646
01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:39,360
understands that then that's an albeit

2647
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:41,600
to the next level

2648
01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:43,760
very nice i agree

2649
01:25:46,709 --> 01:25:45,679
uh tammy by the way tammy thank you for

2650
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:46,719
all the work you do here every night

2651
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,320
with your wrench keeping us safe out

2652
01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:50,960
there she said i watched lazaro on tv or

2653
01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:52,560
excuse me on tv interviews when he

2654
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:53,920
originally came forward it was

2655
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:56,159
believable even back then and then

2656
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:58,719
element 115 which is was discovered and

2657
01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:00,719
that sealed it for me i know that's been

2658
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:02,800
the big one and again

2659
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:04,080
you guys i

2660
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:05,440
listen the guy's controversial i'm not

2661
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:08,080
going to take it away from him but the

2662
01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:09,760
stuff that's like put on there to be

2663
01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:12,239
like well he forged his um

2664
01:26:16,870 --> 01:26:14,080
his resume and stuff not that you should

2665
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,880
be doing that but like even uh richard

2666
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:18,639
uh dolan has hit on this

2667
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:20,560
who has said you know back in the late

2668
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,239
70s early 80s you could get away with

2669
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:23,920
that you and i can't do that now we put

2670
01:26:26,470 --> 01:26:25,440
forth a resume

2671
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:26,480
it is what it is people are going to

2672
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,440
call gonna actually check on this stuff

2673
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,440
you could fudge some numbers back then

2674
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:33,840
you could maybe fluff some stuff and

2675
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,920
does that the smoking gun for the man

2676
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:37,280
then you roll into all the other stuff

2677
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:39,280
but anyways my point being i think the

2678
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:40,960
element 115

2679
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:44,320
very intriguing and the way he described

2680
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:45,120
how

2681
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:47,280
the gravity or the crafts might have

2682
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:48,239
worked with gravity where it's

2683
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:50,960
essentially pulling gravity to it

2684
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:52,320
would be interesting like enzo and i

2685
01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:53,840
have discussed a couple times and he's a

2686
01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:55,440
very smart gentleman way smarter than i

2687
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:56,239
am

2688
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:58,480
by far not a not a hard task to overcome

2689
01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:00,719
there but the idea how

2690
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:02,800
gravity affects time

2691
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:04,000
and so maybe when we're seeing these

2692
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:05,920
crafts moving not taking away from their

2693
01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:07,760
speed at all but just saying

2694
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:09,600
the way that they affect time it would

2695
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:11,040
look jumpy to us

2696
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:12,480
and that could be like when when people

2697
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:14,080
go missing while they're gone for only

2698
01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:15,760
maybe a couple hours in their time but

2699
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:17,679
it could be a day or two down here or

2700
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:19,520
many many many hours it's because

2701
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:21,679
they're literally in a different space

2702
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:24,320
of time in the way it's operating

2703
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:26,239
um but pablo's are pointing some of that

2704
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:29,920
stuff out back in the you know the 80s

2705
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:31,360
it's yeah i'm pretty on the fence with

2706
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:33,520
him i was i was pretty hardcore like oh

2707
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:35,040
this guy's still on truth and then like

2708
01:27:39,669 --> 01:27:36,560
you learned some things and like oh well

2709
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:42,550
oh man i'm gremlins oh he's gone they

2710
01:27:45,910 --> 01:27:44,000
took him out

2711
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:45,920
like the government the cia knew they're

2712
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:47,920
like he's telling too much we gotta pull

2713
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:50,639
them we're pulling them out let's see

2714
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:52,320
we'll be back here in a second here

2715
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,360
there we go

2716
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:54,960
i'm going back brother they're trying to

2717
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:57,040
they don't want me don't be anti-lazar

2718
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:58,560
yeah they don't want me to be

2719
01:28:02,470 --> 01:28:01,199
i believe i believe bob my bad no but i

2720
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:02,480
don't know there's just a lot there's so

2721
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:04,480
many facets and like if you saw i

2722
01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:07,360
remember in my first even ever video i

2723
01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:09,040
he was in there like that first one from

2724
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,360
like that just channel intro

2725
01:28:15,270 --> 01:28:13,440
and i haven't touched it since just

2726
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:15,280
because i i still need to formulate like

2727
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:19,590
nice

2728
01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:21,120
i love it

2729
01:28:25,189 --> 01:28:23,440
um well really quick then let me ask you

2730
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:25,199
this too because like i said we're you

2731
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:29,120
know coming near the end here for you um

2732
01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:31,040
and again it's if you're not comfortable

2733
01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:32,560
it's totally okay but i always ask

2734
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:34,080
everybody when they come out here we

2735
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,199
talked about this earlier people haven't

2736
01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:37,520
experienced it had you ever had an

2737
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:39,600
experience yourself at any point that

2738
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:41,120
you know you're not guaranteed one thing

2739
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:42,320
or the other but just something you

2740
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:43,840
can't explain

2741
01:28:47,110 --> 01:28:45,920
no fortunately not is what i say because

2742
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:47,120
uh

2743
01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:48,560
seems like even when these things aren't

2744
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,239
even intentional sometimes you could get

2745
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:51,920
hurt by it like maybe some kind of

2746
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:53,520
radiation burn or something like that

2747
01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:54,719
and then

2748
01:28:57,750 --> 01:28:56,239
it even seems like a lot of the time

2749
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:57,760
there's some intentional like uh

2750
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:00,880
mischievous stuff how about you have you

2751
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,760
um oh man so i i always say i've

2752
01:29:06,790 --> 01:29:05,520
actually never really done like a i

2753
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,800
don't think i've ever done an episode

2754
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:08,880
where we talked about it i say that i

2755
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:09,760
have

2756
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:11,840
but not in the traditional sense of like

2757
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:13,600
some people have a very clear

2758
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:16,080
recollection of what took place

2759
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:17,760
um and since mine were of when i was

2760
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:20,800
very young i usually uh chalk that up to

2761
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:22,560
a bit of

2762
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:25,440
it's hard to know right uh when you're

2763
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,560
young

2764
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:27,600
but now

2765
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:29,920
coming full circle the stuff and hearing

2766
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:32,000
the other stories uh i think it's become

2767
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,679
a bit more clear but i've never done

2768
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:35,679
anything like any sort of like

2769
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:37,120
and this is very broad but the whole

2770
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:38,719
idea of like you know regression therapy

2771
01:29:41,669 --> 01:29:39,760
and things that nature i've never looked

2772
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:41,679
into that or really done that

2773
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:43,120
but i definitely had some experiences

2774
01:29:45,910 --> 01:29:44,480
that in the time i grew up in a very

2775
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:45,920
religious household so everything was

2776
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,239
just angels or demons right that was

2777
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:50,080
the solution as it were to everything so

2778
01:29:53,669 --> 01:29:52,320
that was how i perceived it at the time

2779
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:53,679
did you tell your like parents at the

2780
01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:56,880
time oh yeah yeah my my mom has a clear

2781
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:59,280
record like a lekkish and she still

2782
01:30:01,990 --> 01:30:00,639
thinks it was like a legit experience

2783
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:02,000
just through the lens of like angel and

2784
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:03,040
demon

2785
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,199
yeah so they think they had what so they

2786
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:06,960
think it had like a vision and i'm sure

2787
01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:08,480
we've all heard i mean that's a very

2788
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:09,600
common thing people heard throughout

2789
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:11,199
different lore you know depending on

2790
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,639
what background you're in but

2791
01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:14,239
um you don't have people have a vision

2792
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:15,760
like native americans spoke about that a

2793
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:18,000
lot right having visions of something

2794
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:18,960
and that is the best way i could

2795
01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:21,360
describe at least in the one instance of

2796
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:23,199
what took place because i was i was

2797
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:24,719
definitely awake

2798
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:26,639
um i could see the room i was in i could

2799
01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:28,159
see my siblings

2800
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:29,679
but then this whole thing was happening

2801
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:31,360
in front of me was like i could

2802
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:33,120
see this whole other world these other

2803
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:35,120
things were taking place they were right

2804
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:37,520
there so wait what was the vision uh-oh

2805
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:43,990
it was nothing like that okay good but

2806
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:46,320
dude okay so hang on i just gotta why'd

2807
01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:49,120
you name 2026 because i also have 2026

2808
01:30:52,550 --> 01:30:50,800
marked what what's

2809
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:52,560
the blood so date

2810
01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:54,000
oh glitch

2811
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:55,280
so but right

2812
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:57,120
is it the ending the beginning of a new

2813
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:00,239
end i don't know and the on jolly date

2814
01:31:05,990 --> 01:31:04,000
all the dates are converging they are

2815
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,000
hopefully that's all wrong but yeah to

2816
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:08,719
be fair on that one i think what he said

2817
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:10,800
was that we're in the start of it

2818
01:31:15,830 --> 01:31:11,760
and that

2819
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:15,840
by then that's his he he didn't like

2820
01:31:19,189 --> 01:31:17,600
in that interview he said that he he's

2821
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:19,199
pretty sure but it wasn't like that's

2822
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:20,560
for sure this is happening and that's

2823
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:21,760
one of the things i respect obviously i

2824
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:23,520
respect him a lot anyways

2825
01:31:26,070 --> 01:31:25,280
what he's gone through

2826
01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:26,080
um

2827
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:28,560
yeah and being open and and ryan his uh

2828
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:31,920
son their podcast is great

2829
01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:34,000
true yeah oh yeah yeah we have a matter

2830
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:35,120
of fact i don't know if chance missed

2831
01:31:39,669 --> 01:31:37,600
one here now but i think chad smith and

2832
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:39,679
maybe myself we're gonna see if i i'd

2833
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:41,440
love to if we can if if i can get the

2834
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:43,360
time off and everything might be going

2835
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:44,560
down there

2836
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:46,480
oh that'd be cool to go hang out yeah

2837
01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:48,880
bro bradshaw ranch wow what am i naming

2838
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:49,760
that

2839
01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:52,080
do you hang out with the bledsoes uh be

2840
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:54,000
careful and i think a good time yeah no

2841
01:31:57,270 --> 01:31:55,840
that's my thing is i in the back of my

2842
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:57,280
head i have to admit and for yourself

2843
01:32:00,790 --> 01:31:59,199
being someone who likes to

2844
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:00,800
uh i guess i shouldn't say that you like

2845
01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:03,280
to film but you i would assume enjoy

2846
01:32:06,390 --> 01:32:05,040
you know like photography

2847
01:32:08,310 --> 01:32:06,400
yeah

2848
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:08,320
i have in my head was like i'm gonna

2849
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:10,080
take equipment with me

2850
01:32:13,270 --> 01:32:11,520
and then like

2851
01:32:15,350 --> 01:32:13,280
i decided it was like i think it was a

2852
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:15,360
month maybe less than that i was like no

2853
01:32:18,790 --> 01:32:16,960
you know what i was like what what could

2854
01:32:19,990 --> 01:32:18,800
i ever see or capture that he hasn't

2855
01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:20,000
already tried to share so i was like

2856
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:21,920
honestly i would just go there for

2857
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:24,159
solely completely just my own individual

2858
01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:26,400
like just open whatever happens and

2859
01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:27,520
that's more and more what i've gone

2860
01:32:30,550 --> 01:32:29,040
through is like i don't need to prove

2861
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:30,560
anything to anybody else anymore as much

2862
01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:32,320
as i'd like to do that

2863
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:34,719
that kind of stuff it's just i feel like

2864
01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:36,560
it's it's the spirit walk right it's a

2865
01:32:41,510 --> 01:32:38,960
very personal like you go and experience

2866
01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:41,520
this thing and um

2867
01:32:44,870 --> 01:32:42,880
who knows what will happen who knows if

2868
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:44,880
we're able to go or not so

2869
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:45,840
i always wonder what would happen if

2870
01:32:50,870 --> 01:32:48,320
somebody did like a dmt there or like at

2871
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:50,880
a skin walker ranch or something

2872
01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:52,480
yeah because specifically they say with

2873
01:32:54,709 --> 01:32:53,520
the then i don't want to speak for them

2874
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:54,719
because i don't know all of their family

2875
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:56,400
history but the blessos i i don't know

2876
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:57,920
if like

2877
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:59,600
if it would be an option for them or not

2878
01:33:02,550 --> 01:33:00,560
you know what i mean for them like if

2879
01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:02,560
they've experienced that or tried to

2880
01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:03,920
yeah oh yeah because they have a pretty

2881
01:33:07,270 --> 01:33:05,440
religious background too so i imagine

2882
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,280
that dmt wasn't probably on the table

2883
01:33:11,510 --> 01:33:09,600
every day

2884
01:33:13,510 --> 01:33:11,520
hang out but again i can't make that

2885
01:33:14,629 --> 01:33:13,520
fair assessment i'm not that close with

2886
01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:14,639
them to know

2887
01:33:18,790 --> 01:33:17,120
um but yeah i i definitely think that

2888
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:18,800
there are those

2889
01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:20,480
so for you for a case like that with the

2890
01:33:24,629 --> 01:33:22,480
with the bledsoe family and for those

2891
01:33:26,629 --> 01:33:24,639
who don't know in a nutshell

2892
01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:26,639
that's a big nutshell yeah we're trying

2893
01:33:30,149 --> 01:33:28,480
to encapsulate that

2894
01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:30,159
mr bledsoe had

2895
01:33:33,669 --> 01:33:31,679
an experience you could say or an

2896
01:33:34,629 --> 01:33:33,679
abduction experience um quite a few

2897
01:33:38,950 --> 01:33:34,639
years ago

2898
01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:38,960
and from that started having um

2899
01:33:43,750 --> 01:33:40,800
some pretty profound

2900
01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:43,760
uh experiences afterwards

2901
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:45,679
as well as on his property and his

2902
01:33:50,229 --> 01:33:47,440
family members and then there was kind

2903
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:50,239
of a smear campaign you could say if you

2904
01:33:54,070 --> 01:33:51,679
base it off what they've said and if you

2905
01:33:55,990 --> 01:33:54,080
look at that documentary

2906
01:33:57,830 --> 01:33:56,000
i could kind of see how it was laid out

2907
01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:57,840
that way because he basically didn't

2908
01:34:01,750 --> 01:33:59,520
play ball there were certain entities

2909
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:01,760
within again going back to three letter

2910
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:03,280
agencies we were like hey you need to

2911
01:34:06,310 --> 01:34:04,480
work with us we want to know what you

2912
01:34:07,590 --> 01:34:06,320
know because clearly and that tells you

2913
01:34:09,590 --> 01:34:07,600
right there that they don't know they

2914
01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:09,600
don't have this figured out they cannot

2915
01:34:14,149 --> 01:34:11,280
figure out a way to actually communicate

2916
01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:14,159
they need experiencers to be able to

2917
01:34:16,470 --> 01:34:15,360
that is the link and that's one of the

2918
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:16,480
things that like joel penn have always

2919
01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:18,880
preached is like you guys might not like

2920
01:34:23,910 --> 01:34:21,840
it but you do need experiencers they

2921
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:23,920
kind of are a big key to this whole

2922
01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:25,920
puzzle if even the cia and other

2923
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:27,840
entities are coming to them going

2924
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:29,120
what do you think we should do what is

2925
01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:30,320
the next move

2926
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:31,600
that should tell you everything you need

2927
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:33,120
to know right there like yeah it's kind

2928
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:34,800
of crazy that people still scoff and

2929
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,679
like

2930
01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:37,199
there's a way to handle it right because

2931
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:38,800
you don't want to believe everything

2932
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:40,560
but i feel like living in a world where

2933
01:34:44,390 --> 01:34:42,320
like now we know that like

2934
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:44,400
if somebody saw a ufo in 2005 we would

2935
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:45,520
have called them crazy if they're in the

2936
01:34:49,590 --> 01:34:48,000
navy but now it's like cool it's like

2937
01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:49,600
one would think that we could like

2938
01:34:52,870 --> 01:34:50,480
think

2939
01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:52,880
okay well maybe some of those

2940
01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:54,080
experiences people have been claiming

2941
01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:55,679
are real and maybe we don't have to

2942
01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:56,719
believe all of them but we should at

2943
01:34:59,030 --> 01:34:57,679
least

2944
01:35:00,390 --> 01:34:59,040
be respectful

2945
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:00,400
and stuff but

2946
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:02,320
who knows maybe i it's going to be a

2947
01:35:05,189 --> 01:35:03,280
while it's going to be we're in a

2948
01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:05,199
multi-year

2949
01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:06,400
uh

2950
01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:09,280
process i think so we'll see

2951
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:11,199
and like i said for me i

2952
01:35:14,310 --> 01:35:12,960
in the beginning was very much so like i

2953
01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:14,320
gotta have all the paperwork i gotta

2954
01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:16,320
have like everything never mess uh never

2955
01:35:20,709 --> 01:35:18,320
trip a word up and all of that and now

2956
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,719
it's definitely come more into

2957
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:22,880
realizing that everybody's just at these

2958
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,480
going back to i guess we could go for

2959
01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:26,960
circle back to it um you know mr

2960
01:35:30,149 --> 01:35:28,159
mitchell talked about in that clip that

2961
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:30,159
we played earlier or excuse me edgar

2962
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:32,080
mitchell there with the idea that we're

2963
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:34,639
all connected and realizing that in that

2964
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:36,880
we're all at different levels of this

2965
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:38,880
experience and whatever it might be and

2966
01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:40,000
also

2967
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:41,760
your experience might and life path

2968
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:43,840
could totally be different than what

2969
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:45,920
mine's gonna be so i don't have to make

2970
01:35:51,109 --> 01:35:48,880
you see things from my point of view

2971
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:51,119
allow you to experience what you are

2972
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:53,280
here to to do or if you believe how you

2973
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:55,360
believe on that and just let you kind of

2974
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:57,840
experience that i don't need to force my

2975
01:36:02,629 --> 01:36:00,639
interpretation or idea of this onto you

2976
01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:02,639
and i'm just trying to i guess that's

2977
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:04,400
where we joke we're riding the the waves

2978
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:05,760
of the cosmo

2979
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:07,440
is because i'm just enjoying the journey

2980
01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:08,880
at this point and kind of enjoying the

2981
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:10,639
idea that i probably will never know

2982
01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:12,480
until whatever the

2983
01:36:15,910 --> 01:36:14,239
next step is whatever the next cycle or

2984
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:15,920
the next thing is after we pass on from

2985
01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:17,119
here

2986
01:36:21,109 --> 01:36:18,880
probably not gonna know right i get an

2987
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:21,119
idea but i don't think we can yeah

2988
01:36:25,109 --> 01:36:22,960
come to the conclusion that like

2989
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:25,119
we probably won't know much more maybe

2990
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:30,629
interesting comment from john here by

2991
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:32,000
the way thank you john for being here

2992
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,760
tonight says at ufo garage you think

2993
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:35,600
maybe the non-humans could be more

2994
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:37,199
reluctant to make contact with

2995
01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:38,880
government people because they prefer to

2996
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:40,639
make contact with people who have true

2997
01:36:45,270 --> 01:36:43,679
positive genuine intentions

2998
01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:45,280
that could be

2999
01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:46,719
um

3000
01:36:49,350 --> 01:36:48,159
i mean we'll go ahead red what are your

3001
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:49,360
thoughts on that

3002
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:51,760
um maybe but also just like whenever i

3003
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:53,440
talk about like this kind of subject i

3004
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:54,719
always just like to think of it through

3005
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:56,159
the lens too that like these things i

3006
01:36:59,910 --> 01:36:57,280
think can

3007
01:37:02,390 --> 01:36:59,920
manipulate what we see and feel

3008
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:02,400
so even if person a is claiming to have

3009
01:37:06,149 --> 01:37:04,159
like totally positive experiences we

3010
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:06,159
might not even be sure of that and also

3011
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:07,600
who knows maybe the government is

3012
01:37:12,149 --> 01:37:09,360
talking to some of these things i

3013
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:12,159
wouldn't be surprised yeah me at all

3014
01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:13,840
i think if there are multi

3015
01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:16,639
species out there or

3016
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:19,520
john hudson uh who who does the unbiased

3017
01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:21,679
ufo report with dave scott over there

3018
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:23,040
has mentioned a couple times that

3019
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:24,719
they're the supposed and i can't

3020
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:25,840
remember the name of the story he was

3021
01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:28,000
recalling but in a nutshell was saying

3022
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:31,040
that we have tried to deal since roswell

3023
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:32,639
with several different

3024
01:37:37,270 --> 01:37:35,600
um species of of other you know races

3025
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,280
out there in the universe

3026
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:39,440
and each one is kind of promised the you

3027
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:41,119
know like oh yeah we totally got you

3028
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:42,320
this is you don't want to work with

3029
01:37:46,149 --> 01:37:43,679
these guys and that we kind of keep

3030
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:46,159
moving on to the next group

3031
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:47,920
who knows i mean that's all great and

3032
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:50,159
fantastical speculation but at the same

3033
01:37:53,830 --> 01:37:51,920
time it doesn't i guess seem that far of

3034
01:37:55,910 --> 01:37:53,840
the realm the possibility

3035
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:55,920
john also says uh in continuation was

3036
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:57,280
last question about the genuine

3037
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:59,840
intentions he said or because they know

3038
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:01,119
everything we're thinking since they're

3039
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:03,040
telepathic so they know the military

3040
01:38:06,790 --> 01:38:05,119
wants to stop them i mean if nothing

3041
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,800
else the military does have to make it a

3042
01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:08,719
threat right the dod that's how they

3043
01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:09,760
make their living that's how they make

3044
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:11,920
their money i mean if you threw a cute

3045
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:13,760
little puppy at them they'd figure out a

3046
01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:16,560
way to arm it and weaponize it and then

3047
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:18,560
sell it back to us as a as a threat to

3048
01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:20,239
get more money so

3049
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:22,560
that's kind of what they do

3050
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:24,000
you know

3051
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:25,199
i think too

3052
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:27,280
um and john and i he's talked about this

3053
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:28,400
i'm sure you've heard him say it the

3054
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:29,920
idea amount of missing people that go

3055
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:31,760
missing every year right oh yeah missing

3056
01:38:35,669 --> 01:38:32,880
forms

3057
01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:35,679
i think it's all connected

3058
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:37,040
like you think bigfoot's real too and

3059
01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:38,480
it's all connected

3060
01:38:42,550 --> 01:38:40,639
i it's something that's the thing though

3061
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,560
right if it's all connected which people

3062
01:38:47,109 --> 01:38:44,480
get i'm glad to see that even since i

3063
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:47,119
got into this like i said 2019-ish give

3064
01:38:49,510 --> 01:38:48,320
or take i might always been kind of

3065
01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:49,520
interested but like actually trying to

3066
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:52,239
really get into it and pay attention

3067
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:53,920
and even it then it started to break

3068
01:38:57,109 --> 01:38:55,360
down a little bit but there still was

3069
01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:57,119
the kind of encampments of like this is

3070
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:59,840
a big foot camp this is the ufo camp and

3071
01:39:02,149 --> 01:39:01,440
then even within those camps there was

3072
01:39:03,669 --> 01:39:02,159
like

3073
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:03,679
breakdown and it's still going on but

3074
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:05,679
there'd be breakdown of like well this

3075
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:07,360
is the the

3076
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:08,960
you know like a what they call the skunk

3077
01:39:11,590 --> 01:39:10,480
ape version or like they'd have

3078
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:11,600
different types of like well what if

3079
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:12,560
it's just

3080
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:14,880
like you said that the idea

3081
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:16,719
that if they can manipulate what you're

3082
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:17,600
seeing

3083
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:21,520
it doesn't that's why to me i don't care

3084
01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:23,280
personally as much of what the person's

3085
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:24,480
seen even though i love hearing those

3086
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:26,480
stories i care about have they had an

3087
01:39:29,189 --> 01:39:27,600
experience

3088
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:29,199
because if that thing can project itself

3089
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:32,560
as an owl a deer a bigfoot whatever it

3090
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:34,320
projects itself to you as another human

3091
01:39:39,109 --> 01:39:36,480
being maybe even a loved one

3092
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:39,119
it doesn't really matter so much as you

3093
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:41,520
had an experience you cannot explain

3094
01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:43,600
that's the important thing

3095
01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:45,920
um i think sometimes we kind of

3096
01:39:49,590 --> 01:39:47,840
nitpick the idea of the details of the

3097
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:49,600
stories and it's like yeah but at the

3098
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:50,560
end of the day you still agree an

3099
01:39:53,590 --> 01:39:51,760
experience that

3100
01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:53,600
took place so like that should be the

3101
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,199
focal point not

3102
01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:58,080
maybe the aesthetics to that

3103
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:59,679
um oh i know what were you saying

3104
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:01,440
earlier too i feel like the when someone

3105
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:03,600
said this in chat was like the woo

3106
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:05,440
barrier is being broken down and to me

3107
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:07,040
it seems like it is like the gila brand

3108
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:09,119
has a language about

3109
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,719
physical effects which like you wouldn't

3110
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:12,800
really think of from the three videos

3111
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:14,000
that were released right so there's

3112
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:15,280
definitely something going on in those

3113
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:17,040
briefings that made her say that and

3114
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:18,239
then all this stuff about havana

3115
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:20,960
syndrome it pretty much seems to me like

3116
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,480
woe to me

3117
01:40:25,669 --> 01:40:24,239
i think they were a few years away from

3118
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:25,679
them telling us it's like related to

3119
01:40:29,830 --> 01:40:28,400
ufos but maybe not which would almost

3120
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:29,840
date back to some of the consciousness

3121
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:31,280
stuff right but before we get to that

3122
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:33,280
really quick tammy says the breakdown

3123
01:40:36,629 --> 01:40:35,040
will continue but the coming together is

3124
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:36,639
getting much stronger

3125
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:38,320
i do agree with that i do agree that a

3126
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:39,760
lot of people are

3127
01:40:43,030 --> 01:40:41,760
looking past their differences like i we

3128
01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:43,040
have a great group of people we hang out

3129
01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:44,080
with matterhorn we'll be hanging out

3130
01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:46,719
later tonight um and

3131
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:48,960
we don't all see eye to eye for sure but

3132
01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:51,840
we we recognize that

3133
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:53,600
this thing as a whole

3134
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:55,360
is more important than our little

3135
01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:56,639
differences that

3136
01:40:59,510 --> 01:40:58,239
we don't perfectly agree on this one

3137
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,520
thing whatever

3138
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:00,960
that makes it fun to like throw the

3139
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:02,320
ideas back and forth right if we all

3140
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:03,760
just sat in the room together like yup

3141
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:05,040
it'd be like the most boring

3142
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:06,800
conversation do you believe this we're

3143
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:08,560
like yes all right and especially when

3144
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:10,239
people want to do it when people want to

3145
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:12,719
make these divides along like political

3146
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:14,320
and social lines that really haven't

3147
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:15,679
existed

3148
01:41:19,669 --> 01:41:17,679
at the level they're existing now until

3149
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:19,679
like the 2010s

3150
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:21,280
and it's like this phenomenon goes back

3151
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:22,800
potentially thousands of years and you

3152
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:25,199
want to constrict yourself to these like

3153
01:41:28,870 --> 01:41:26,800
classification systems we just barely

3154
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:28,880
created when discussing this it's like

3155
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:29,840
nah

3156
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:31,520
that's what always has bothered me even

3157
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:33,840
with like on our old show that i did my

3158
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,199
brother back in it was called banned

3159
01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:37,520
bearded brothers it was b.o.b.b there

3160
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:39,840
was a short acronym for it and he he

3161
01:41:43,270 --> 01:41:41,360
covered the political side of things

3162
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,280
that's where his that's his uh

3163
01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:45,199
wheelhouse and he's really good at it

3164
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:47,360
and i would give opinions on it but i

3165
01:41:50,629 --> 01:41:49,040
wasn't married to anything and the only

3166
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,639
reason i really get involved with it is

3167
01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:52,960
because when covering the ufo phenomenon

3168
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:55,280
or any of the phenomena

3169
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:56,800
including like the stuff that happened

3170
01:42:01,109 --> 01:41:58,880
over the outlook pass and all that

3171
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:01,119
there's us documentation on like how to

3172
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:03,280
deal with the yeti like that's a real

3173
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:05,679
document that they put off

3174
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:07,600
yeah so like for me

3175
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:09,440
that's where it's cool like i'll involve

3176
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:11,360
the government um excuse me politics up

3177
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:13,280
to those points because whether we like

3178
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:15,360
it or not they are involved

3179
01:42:19,669 --> 01:42:17,920
um but not to get married to one or the

3180
01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:19,679
other because like

3181
01:42:24,229 --> 01:42:22,159
it's all at the end of the day

3182
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:24,239
they teach their own but it's it's like

3183
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:25,440
it's just that other piece of the

3184
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:27,119
illusion that sits there and we're like

3185
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:30,080
we think it matters so much

3186
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:32,239
i mean it does matter we have to play by

3187
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:33,840
the rules a little bit but like at the

3188
01:42:39,030 --> 01:42:35,040
end of the day

3189
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:39,040
it's just all kind of fake you know like

3190
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,639
there's so much of this once like i

3191
01:42:43,669 --> 01:42:42,000
think we go another hundred years people

3192
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,679
are gonna look back at the rules and how

3193
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:45,520
we operated our everyday life and be

3194
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,760
like yeah it's gonna be so weird i think

3195
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:49,440
it's just look at how look at humans

3196
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:50,719
learning how to live with the internet

3197
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,320
for the first time and all these like

3198
01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:54,400
stimulus that they're getting look at

3199
01:42:56,870 --> 01:42:55,600
how they act

3200
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:56,880
um what does it say oh but i think your

3201
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:58,080
brother will like my next video because

3202
01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:59,520
it has a lot of statements from like

3203
01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:01,280
active politicians

3204
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,520
uh oh because this past like the last

3205
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:05,520
half of 2021 there was just so much

3206
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:07,119
being said by so many people compared to

3207
01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:09,199
like the previous three or four years

3208
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:11,440
so send it to him hopefully we can uh

3209
01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:13,199
red pill your brother and then

3210
01:43:17,189 --> 01:43:15,199
pretty soon he'll uh be all obsessed

3211
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:17,199
about this stuff like we are oh he's

3212
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:18,960
he's he's trying to become and i we

3213
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,960
haven't even really given up

3214
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:22,560
an opinion or excuse me a statement

3215
01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:23,920
about why we've even stopped in the show

3216
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,679
he's out becoming a millionaire guys and

3217
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:27,280
i'm all for supporting him on it he's

3218
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:28,880
he's in the crypto game hardcore he's

3219
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:32,239
just daily trading oh he goes hard

3220
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:34,960
um so i i you know if he needed time off

3221
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:36,639
between the work and everything i'm all

3222
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:37,920
for that i told him so you can go do

3223
01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:39,040
that for a couple years or a year or

3224
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,280
whatever we get retired we can do this

3225
01:43:44,390 --> 01:43:43,520
full time let's go you know

3226
01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:44,400
um

3227
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:47,040
let's see really quick too

3228
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:47,920
uh

3229
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:50,080
last chat check integrity oh my gosh

3230
01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:57,270
america

3231
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:59,040
that's i mean you can you know it can be

3232
01:44:01,830 --> 01:44:00,480
what you want it to be

3233
01:44:04,709 --> 01:44:01,840
um

3234
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:04,719
jim good over there said i've always

3235
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:06,800
tried to not conform and play outside

3236
01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:07,840
the lines

3237
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:10,400
good for you i i do respect that i think

3238
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:12,320
there's a respectable way to be i mean

3239
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:14,800
yeah blowing the whistle on the sr-71

3240
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:19,910
it was pretty big screw your lines it

3241
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:21,600
was pretty big deal

3242
01:44:25,510 --> 01:44:23,280
um let's see one last question here

3243
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:25,520
really quick from coin exchange says at

3244
01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:27,199
red panda koala have you had any

3245
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:30,960
paranormal encounters or eet encounters

3246
01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:33,199
yeah paranormal

3247
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:34,880
no fortunately i don't think i've had

3248
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:37,600
anything much strange happen

3249
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:38,719
uh

3250
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:39,520
yeah

3251
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:40,880
knock on woods

3252
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:41,920
there we go

3253
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:43,360
i will share this one more time across

3254
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:45,119
all the platforms again guys if you are

3255
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:47,280
listening back i have everything in the

3256
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:49,280
show notes here i did hear one person

3257
01:44:53,590 --> 01:44:51,440
let me know i believe tammy and carol

3258
01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:53,600
let me know earlier that the

3259
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:54,880
youtube

3260
01:44:58,950 --> 01:44:57,360
uh link might have been different

3261
01:45:00,950 --> 01:44:58,960
if that is the case i will make sure i

3262
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:00,960
take care of that before tonight is out

3263
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:02,320
for you guys and i'll get that update i

3264
01:45:05,270 --> 01:45:03,280
could probably even update it while

3265
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:05,280
we're getting ready and the show here

3266
01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:06,800
um really quickly little red thank you

3267
01:45:09,590 --> 01:45:08,000
so much for coming on hanging out

3268
01:45:11,669 --> 01:45:09,600
tonight um

3269
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:11,679
and you know essentially just spending a

3270
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:12,960
couple hours with me i really appreciate

3271
01:45:15,109 --> 01:45:14,239
that we're able to have a conversation

3272
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:15,119
and

3273
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:16,880
uh hopefully you enjoyed your time is

3274
01:45:20,229 --> 01:45:18,480
there anything you'd like to add for

3275
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,239
anybody at the end here far as just a

3276
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:21,679
general opinion or things you've got

3277
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:23,920
coming up no people know about just yeah

3278
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:25,199
i have more videos coming up i'm gonna

3279
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:26,800
start doing interviews and stuff but

3280
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:28,080
yeah thanks for having me on i like your

3281
01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:30,880
show i like what you guys do uh ufo

3282
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:33,520
garage and the big willy van i've seen a

3283
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:35,280
bunch of these streams you know i think

3284
01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:36,400
uh i'm definitely one of the people

3285
01:45:39,590 --> 01:45:37,760
who's like a

3286
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:39,600
like in all the different stream chats

3287
01:45:42,629 --> 01:45:41,520
you know because i'm like like

3288
01:45:44,149 --> 01:45:42,639
we're at that level like we're so

3289
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:44,159
obsessed with it we just always need to

3290
01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:45,679
be like listening to someone talk about

3291
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:46,800
it so

3292
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:49,360
yeah i kind of i'm proud of everyone

3293
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:51,040
doing doing their thing

3294
01:45:54,550 --> 01:45:52,480
i don't know if it's healthy or not but

3295
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:54,560
we definitely do it so

3296
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:55,840
we all just go to the same streams

3297
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:57,520
together but yeah

3298
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:59,440
it's the only way to do it i guess right

3299
01:46:03,030 --> 01:46:01,119
all right oh i forgot because we're

3300
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:03,040
broadcasting i can't change it that's

3301
01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:04,639
okay i will update that after we've

3302
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:06,320
ended the show so no matter what though

3303
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:08,400
guys it will be in there for you

3304
01:46:11,830 --> 01:46:09,760
once you listen back to this and for

3305
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,840
those that are in the chat so guys as i

3306
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:14,400
always say when signing off we'll ask

3307
01:46:20,140 --> 01:46:17,040
you all to please stay curious

3308
01:46:56,550 --> 01:46:20,150
and keep it weird

3309
01:47:00,220 --> 01:46:58,709
[Music]

3310
01:47:08,580 --> 01:47:00,230
so